BREDEBAHN - The complete history in pictures (and a few words)

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Well, I did ask the question. My old railway, the Bredebahn, is awaiting reincarnation as the BredeOstBahn since we moved house two years ago. The Bredebahn had been in existence from 2001 to 2008 and had developed in that time from a basic starter set running around a circle in my conservatory, to quite a nice sized railway running down the side of my garden.

So to those that kindly responded, I will do my best over the next few weeks to post up a pictorial potted history of the former Bredebahn.....



We start in the Year 2001.......

Our back garden in the new house in the village of Broad Oak Brede was some 80 feet in length, and roughly the first 50 feet were used for the railway, circling a fishpond which pre-existed in the undergrowth and taking a strip about 10 feet wide from the side of the garden. I had little previous experience of outdoor model railways and thus the whole process was a combination of skills and guesswork learned from the prototype and from indoor modelling in OO, N and 009. A lot (and I mean a lot!) of lessons were learned along the way; of course, sites such as this and G Scale Mad simply did not exist to lend a hand.

I wanted the Bredebahn to look natural, to fit with its' surroundings, to be a railway in a landscape. I think I partly achieved that objective. A number of visitors who had seen the railway pictured on the web said that they felt that they knew it already when they saw it for real, and I took that as a great compliment. I will leave those that haven't seen it before to make up their own minds.


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This is cutting the first sod of the Bredebahn. Difficult to believe that this youngest son of mine is now qualified to sit in the front of your holiday jet and take you away to the sun. And regretfully that our old Jack-Russell Chloe is no longer with us.


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The trackbed was marked out on the virgin lawn with a spraycan and then a trench was cut......



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The trough was gauged on the width of a housebrick doubled (I told you I had little experience). You try to keep the base of the trench level - hence the minor cutting seen here (which later turned into a tunnel as you will see if you're patient enough to stay with this thread).



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This was then filled with bricks, strips of timber glued on top, and filled with sand. The theory being that the track would then be tacked to the timber strips. What a waste of time, sand and bricks! NOTE TO NEW BUILDERS - DO NOT EVEN THINK OF THIS METHOD!

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The trail of bricks extends over what became the approach to Honigfallen Station.

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You try to keep the track as level as possible. As the lawn started to drop away then I really started to ruin the garden

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The concrete is now becoming well established. This was the original turning point for the Bredebahn which was going to form a kind of elongated dogbone - a Radius 1 180 degree curve over a water feature. The water feature is fine - the Radius 1 curve isn't - wasn't. See how this was rapidly eliminated in a future installment. And try to avoid making the same mistake yourself!

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A final test train for this initial posting. You have to get trains running at an early stage to maintain enthusiasm (I am told!).
 
So, having set the scene, here are a few more pictures taken from Year 1 - 2001.



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Keep it coming please, John! I so loved the Bredebahn. :thumbup:
 
New Haven Neil said:
Keep it coming please, John! I so loved the Bredebahn. :thumbup:

Thanks Neil - and for your kind words. It'll take a bit of time to post up the whole history.........
 
A few detailed pictures showing the construction of the turning loop. I use the word "construction" very loosely, although again it's interesting to see how this part of the railway actually turned out in time. You will note that the bricks were laid directly onto the grass without any fancy footings - I figured that by the time I'd finished by infilling the middle with concrete, rubble, used brake disks and the like, footings would not be adding anything to the equation. It never moved.......

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Pictures from late in 2001 and into 2002 will follow shortly.
 
fantastic, just hope this sparks a few neurons into plasce to get the all new line up and running!!:bigsmile:
 
Looking forward to seeing more John.

And also looking forward to seeing the BOB being built too....
 
Bredebahn said:
You will note that the bricks were laid directly onto the grass without any fancy footings - I figured that by the time I'd finished by infilling the middle with concrete, rubble, used brake disks and the like, footings would not be adding anything to the equation. It never moved.......
Dear John :rolf:
Not strictly a sound building construction proposal. The likelihood of the brickwork sinking would have been the direct correlation between the bearing capacity of the soil and the bricks - the concrete may have helped where it clung to the bricks, but there doesn't seem to have been any direct mechanical link.

That said, I am not a lover of heavy egineering solutions for garden railway tracks on the simple premise that, in areas where frost heave and movement is likely to occur, many building footings go down as much as two meters. If that's the case, unless you're on very boggy ground, then 6", 1ft or 2ft of foundation under the track won't help the tiniest bit.

So, just build it light, and re-build it if it moves :thumbup:
 
Nice to see the early days John. I first met the Bredebahn in 2008, a great deal obviously happened in the preceeding 6 years.:bigsmile::thumbup:
 
This is a fantasic thread please more :bigsmile:

I find it reassuring to see the intial mess and odd mistake - as a chap whose garden is currently a mass of concrete, timber, and gravel and having the occasional "what an earth am I doing" thoughts right at the .moment - let alone SWMBO's views. Keep it coming.

I look forward to seeing the thread develop and the railway with it what fun.
 
Thanks for posting these pics, the Bredebahn was always a great inspiration to me (still is via the G Scale Mad DVD).
Hope you get to start your new line soon:)
 
Last pictures for 2001 showing how progress was made in tidying up in the final useful months - until September. The railway was still in its' initial form as a dogbone - it was to be a little while until that was also changed. The Radius 1 lesson had not yet been learned. Neither had the lesson that requires the railway to have as few gradients as possible and that tunnels kind of form datum points...............

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So, fast forward to March 2002. At this point some attention has been given to the other end of the railway. It appears that rails had been laid down as quickly as possible - and what a disaster! Remember those fairground railways of old? As it looked ridiculous, I was already having second thoughts about (lots of) R1 curves and the first deviation was happening before the railway had even been completed! As you can see I've meticulously cleared all the previous autumn's leaves away. Never mind, it would soon be time to start running trains - and then I would really discover what other early mistakes I had made (by now you should be up to about two dozen at least!). Biggest of all, it didn't look natural.
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Now that we're starting to get into the interesting bits, where it actually starts to look like a railway, it may be worth publishing the trackplan of the final incarnation. This is strictly schematic, but it enables tracing of progress to be made as invariably new routings follow old trackbeds, with only one part of the original falling out of use permanently. The Bredebahn was a very analogue railway, so peruse the power and switching sections at your leisure!
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By the time the above plan was completed, the Bredebahn had assumed a partial identity and purpose related to the Rhatische Bahn. Of course, in the early days locos and stock were whatever was affordable. The first loco was the Stainz of course (and what a super little loco this is to start off with - still a favourite of mine) though I had hankered for the U Class Zillertal 0-6-2T having previously had a couple of smaller versions on an 009 layout. The one shown here came to me, new, for £212. Unfortunately it has been one of my least reliable locos over the years, but I still love her. You can also see my little Scheoma (?) diesel - came to me in bits and showing a distinct lack of previous care - but she's as tough as old boots and still runs well with no further attention beyond a wheel clean. That's one thing I really like about LGB stuff - pretty bombproof in instances like this.

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