Bogie coaches or wagons on R1 curves.

To the first question, the answer depends on how long the coaches are. The longer the coach, the greater the overhang as the coach goes round a curve. (BTW, remember the four wheel coaches can themselves be bogie coaches, so presumabl you are talking about four wheel bogies and coaches longer than the 12 inches or so of the starter set and Playmobil coaches.) But again, you can run what you want and what fits in with your railway and not just what other people think is "right".

The answer to the second question is, "Yes". The role of the bogies is to let longer rolling stock get round tight curves.
 
All LGB Stock and Locomotives are made to work on R1 points and curves, though some things do look very silly on such small curves. The big Harz 2-10-2 for instance grinds its self round R1 in a most undignified way. Best to stick with 4 wheel items if you can bear to.
 
I agree with the replies above.
As regards "looking silly" it's really a matter of personal taste, only very few have the space for the luxury of prototypical scale curves.
 
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Looks right, LGB Feldbahn on R1.

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Looks tight, but it does work. 'Standard' size bogie stock (Bachmann, USA Trains, and LGB) and an Aristocraft diesel, on R1. This is actually one of the few Aristocraft large diesels that are trouble free on R1.

You should have no trouble with a Stainz and 4 wheel LGB stock, or 'smaller' bogie vehicles.
 
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i have some problems with 40 cm long flatcars from newqida with truck-mounted (LGB style) hook & loop couplers..
when they leave a R1 curve, it sometime happens, that the rear bogie from a car - as it is roling onto the straight - is forcing the frontbogie of the following car to the outside by its loop.
resulting in an outside derailment of the front bogie.

my (working) solution - a guardrail for the inner rail of the last 20 cm of the curve and the first 10 cm of the straight.

i suppose, that body-mounted or horizontally movable couplers would not have that problem.
 
Maybe something is hanging up underneath or hitting a foot step. Also make sure the track is level mine kept jumping out during the switch. I also noticed if the car is empty with heavy cars behind it the weight would pull the empty ones off track. I ended up doing way with all r1s on main line. Good luck
 
Another issue could be bogie lubrication, in a UK LGB Maintenance Book produced by a UK Magazine there was an illustration of White Dust from bogies in the Pivot that had not been lubricated. Perhaps this coild be building up and be an issue?
 
A tip. When investigating derailment issues, ALWAYS check the track first before playing around with the rolling stock.
I've seen guys dismantle locomotives, make modifications, order spare parts in order to correct a derailment cause, when all along, it was a kink in a rail joint, or simple twist (uneven levels) on the track.
 
Gavin Sowry said:
A tip. When investigating derailment issues, ALWAYS check the track first before playing around with the rolling stock.
I've seen guys dismantle locomotives, make modifications, order spare parts in order to correct a derailment cause, when all along, it was a kink in a rail joint, or simple twist (uneven levels) on the track.
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Now that's interesting, Gav - 'cos I tend to go about it as you describe, stock, bogies, wheels, axles etc first.

I've found that, in general terms, most G scale stock will tolerate some pretty rubbish track, and that includes my Fn3 stock with finer (I don't class them as fine scale) Accucraft flanges.

But hey, each to his own - and I suspect that it depends on the circumstances.

Axle lubrication is always the first port of call for any inexplicable derailment - most of my explicable ones relate to failure to set the points correctly o_Oo_Oo_O
 
Most of my rolling stock are 4 axles and they run fine on my R1 curves and switches. My longest are the Bachmann passenger cars 54 cm (21 inches) no issues at all.
However I would not try the Usa trains auto carrier 37 inches for example !!
 
korm kormsen said:
i have some problems with 40 cm long flatcars from newqida with truck-mounted (LGB style) hook & loop couplers..
when they leave a R1 curve, it sometime happens, that the rear bogie from a car - as it is roling onto the straight - is forcing the frontbogie of the following car to the outside by its loop.
resulting in an outside derailment of the front bogie.
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I am of the opinion that the Newqida plastic coupling hook "springs" are rather stiff. This may result in some sideways pressure on the couplings on tight curves. I replaced all the springs on my Newqida stock with genuine LGB spares.
 
Dumb question, does "bogie" refer to "trucks" in US parlance, i.e. a structure which holds the axles and pivots in relation to the chassis?

So this picture does not have "bogie wagons", right?

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Greg Elmassian said:
Dumb question, does "bogie" refer to "trucks" in US parlance, i.e. a structure which holds the axles and pivots in relation to the chassis?

So this picture does not have "bogie wagons", right?

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Correct.

A bogie is a 4 (or 6) wheeled truck that swivels on an underframe. You call it a truck.
 
Gavin Sowry said:
Correct.

A bogie is a 4 (or 6) wheeled truck that swivels on an underframe. You call it a truck.
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Common language separated by a big pond and lots of different terminologies for Railway and other meanings. Rubber for istance that we in UK use to wipe out letters and words created by a Pencil, very different meaning in US. Mobile Phone mostly called a Cell in US, Germans call them a Handy!
 
Greg Elmassian said:
Dumb question, does "bogie" refer to "trucks" in US parlance, i.e. a structure which holds the axles and pivots in relation to the chassis?

So this picture does not have "bogie wagons", right?

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Hardly 'dumb' mate.

Yes, a bogie is a truck

In England, truck is being paid from the company store - made illegal in 1831 by the Truck Act, still going strong in the Falklands in 1982 :D:D

Now, when it comes to lorries ................................... aagh, life's too short :smoke::smoke::smoke:
 
Works for me, but then all my bogie vehicles are no longer than 60 cm/2 ft....
 
Neil Robinson said:
I am of the opinion that the Newqida plastic coupling hook "springs" are rather stiff. This may result in some sideways pressure on the couplings on tight curves. I replaced all the springs on my Newqida stock with genuine LGB spares.
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thanks.
although, my guard rails are a working solution, it is good to know another possible cure.
 
korm kormsen said:
i have some problems with 40 cm long flatcars from newqida with truck-mounted (LGB style) hook & loop couplers..
when they leave a R1 curve, it sometime happens, that the rear bogie from a car - as it is roling onto the straight - is forcing the frontbogie of the following car to the outside by its loop.
resulting in an outside derailment of the front bogie.

my (working) solution - a guardrail for the inner rail of the last 20 cm of the curve and the first 10 cm of the straight.

i suppose, that body-mounted or horizontally movable couplers would not have that problem.
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If you run reasonably long trains on tight curves there are often problems with light bogie vehicles derailing as the drag from vehicles behind tends to pull the flanges up over the top of the rails.
 
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