Battery Conversion of a Ten Wheeler

Rhinochugger

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Phil, many thanks for this, and Rhinochugger Rhinochugger for confirming :)
Just make sure you get the one for the sound not the lights - I have manged to get the lights flashing in time to the wheels >:)>:)>:)>:)
 
JimmyB

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Now for a question of weight, as this started off as a battery loco, I don't have any weight, I am currently trying to source some lead code 3 or 4. So my question is roughly what wast the weight of the lead weight, or loco complete with weight, but more importantly what do you consider an upgrade weight should be, many thanks, I am sure i will get some sensible answers :mask:
 
a98087

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It’s been said before that so long as the Wheels can spin if the the loco stalls , then that’s fine.

For testing you can use bags of old coins,

For sources of weights, tyre wheel weights, fishing weights or even cast your own it’s quite easy with just a blow torch and a wood mould that’s what i do when I need to

Any questions just ask

Dan
 
JimmyB

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It’s been said before that so long as the Wheels can spin if the the loco stalls , then that’s fine.

For testing you can use bags of old coins,

For sources of weights, tyre wheel weights, fishing weights or even cast your own it’s quite easy with just a blow torch and a wood mould that’s what i do when I need to

Any questions just ask

Dan
Dan, after exploring the internet, and looking at lead prices (£2.00/1Kg) the big cost is p&p, but I have found a roofer/lead locally, just awaiting a response. My plan was to cast it in wood (carefully), but I am just looking for a starting point.
 
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I've got a couple - different treatments applied to them. I'll see if I can use SWMBO's scales later ;);)

Just gotta stay in da house until Parcelfarce delivers.
 
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The way I do it, is simple wooden mold, sealed with lots of PVA prevent leakage of molten lead.

I then melt it using a blowtorch Using an empty tin can as a crucible

And carefully pour into the mold.

the advantage is it’s all cheap and disposable so if it goes wrong nothing expensive is lost.
Dan
 
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while you have the loco in bits, you need to add lead weight wherever you can.
The regular (non-battery) 4-6-0 locos have a large cast iron weight over the drivers. I keep one on my bench for holding things down as needed. For weighting nowadays I like fishing weights, which are easy to buy and easy to install in obscure spaces.
 
Rhinochugger

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I've got a couple - different treatments applied to them. I'll see if I can use SWMBO's scales later ;);)

Just gotta stay in da house until Parcelfarce delivers.
In avoirdupois, Jimmy 6lbs all up loco weight :):)
 
Rhinochugger

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The way I do it, is simple wooden mold, sealed with lots of PVA prevent leakage of molten lead.

I then melt it using a blowtorch Using an empty tin can as a crucible

And carefully pour into the mold.

the advantage is it’s all cheap and disposable so if it goes wrong nothing expensive is lost.
Dan
Oh, misread that and thought you were mixing PVA with the lead - that's a no-no :shake::shake:
 
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One nite of extreme caution if casting lead in wood that has been treated with PVA. Allow plenty of time to dry off, lead and dampness can be an explosive combination as a friend of mine discovered many years ago using lead in plaster moulds that had nit fully dried out. Suggest a day or three in the airing cupboard if you have one. No good me suggesting in full sun at this time of the year.
 
JimmyB

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a98087 a98087 wood was what I was considering, but was a little wary, it will be the way forward.
dunnyrail dunnyrail thanks for the tip about the damp, never even considered that.
Rhinochugger Rhinochugger I have 3.75 kg (8 1/4 lbs avoirdupois) so should be plenty and some.

I will let everybody know how I get on.