Bachmann / Liliput Trams

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Whilst trawling the new Dutch Grootspoor website I found these tram trailers along with powered trams. Pictures courtesy Grootspoor. Alyn
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H'mm, interesting. With the trolley plank and roof steps still in situ (and controllers?) would be easy to make into powered cars.
 

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The trailers are just motorless standard trams complete with a headlight. Maybe its more economical to buy these & put in a decent motor unit.
 

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The motorised units were announced in 2011, but still aren't available. The three trailer units are new items for 2012. I've asked Liliput about their expected delivery date, but they don't know yet...

Bachmann also has/had trams, but I believe the Liliput models have better motorblocks and are less noisy.

Anyway, I think I ordered one of these Liliput trams in January, so now I'm just waiting for them to arrive some day... Review will be posted on Gscalenews.
 

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The early motor blocks in these were dreadful:thumbdown:...........I gave up on mine and fitted a USA Trains block to it.
The later models (red box not maroon) are much better................:clap:
 

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I'm thinking that one of the un-powered cars will look great with the lgb dr steam tram loco...............
 

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You may as well buy the cheaper trailer cars and upgrade them to power cars yourself, because the more expensive power cars aren't long becoming trailer cars anyway.
 

themole

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That was my idea to use the cheaper trailer and convert.
Here are some of the trams here, the all Bachmann trams have Buhler motors fitted. Alyn see below;-
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What is the prototype for these Bachmann trams Alyn? They look a bit too freelance to me. I think they would look better with a pair of bogies underneath.
 

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The Bachmann tram is 100% correct, model is Jackson Sharp demonstrator #100 Alyn I will post a picture.
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There were bogie versions too, I have some pictures of them, along with 7 & 8 window 4 wheel J & S cars. Alyn.
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Air powered tram ran on compressed air.
 

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I do have one of the Bachmanns extended and put onto bogies. It looks right to me.
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Failed power cars are usually converted to run as trailers, you do need trailers !
I think the noisy complaining gears sound just right for tramcars and we keep them well greased, but failures happen.
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The tram fleet is often increased from Ebay etc when something turns up at a reasonable price
These were bought in this month, untried of course, and all fortunately run well
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Smart arrivals like these always retain the original paintwork whilst more care-worn examples are repainted.
I dont like trams with the same fleet number so they are carefully changed as on this Hershey which was No.6 and had also had the underframe painted silver to match the tail load.
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Syd
 

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Very nice 8window conversion, Syd; What power bogies did you use? Alyn
 

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Ditto! A brief explanation of the process would be much appreciated. Ah the bogie conversion that is....
 

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tramcar trev said:
Ditto! A brief explanation of the process would be much appreciated. Ah the bogie conversion that is....
Also ditto. I have 2 trams in pieces, 2 Aristo bogies & just need a push to get going.
 

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dutchelm said:
tramcar trev said:
Ditto! A brief explanation of the process would be much appreciated. Ah the bogie conversion that is....
Also ditto. I have 2 trams in pieces, 2 Aristo bogies & just need a push to get going.
I just bought a Bachmann toastrack and an enclosed car via ebay at a price that lets me think of cutting and shutting...... Thoughts are in my head re making a California Combination car from the both i.e. a bit of cross bench at each end with saloon in the centre... then I can use the single truck....
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duncan1_9_8_4 said:
I'm thinking that one of the un-powered cars will look great with the lgb dr steam tram loco...............

I have some bogie trailers made from joining pairs of LGB tram bodies together Duncan.
As you say, just the thing for the LGB Tram engines to haul around.
Syd
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The extended Bachmann tram runs on home-made bogies, using parts from a Hartland power block I think.
At present the bodywork sits on a plasticard chassis, but this winter I am going to try to make one from brass to give the tram more structural strength.
Here are another couple of pics of it closer up.
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Some of the donor trams have got a second life as re-builds.
This was a Bachmann toastrack car that arrived in a damaged non-working state for peanuts, as I needed some replacement seats
for another car. The power unit was coaxed into life ( and is VERY noisy and slow ) so I constructed a works car body from plasticard sheet. A very basic effort, but it looks the part and after a coat of paint fits in well and I am pleased with the result.
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themole

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Thanks for the info Syd. Here's a couple of pictures of my watercar. Alyn
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The last picture is my live steam fix:- a 1/10th scale showman's traction engine with 89 key Gavioli Fairground Organ that I built over two years; works using mp3 player, and 10 watt stereo amp, all built in. The drums and conductor (modified LGB station master) and lighting, are digital controlled using a Hornby Elite plus chips. Alyn