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Bachmann Jackson Sharpe Coach re-branding.

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Having collected together almost all the bits to re-assemble these, I wanted to make a start in earnest. The big trouble is that as usual Earnest is nowhere to be found!

All the couplings have been changed to Accu Z2 (see other thread) and everything re-sprayed or painted,

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All the masking tape has been removed and a start to refitting the glazing made.

I thought; next stage, screw the floors back in. This is the first point where I could have come unstuck. By good chance/luck/happenstance I happened to think that the easiest to get near completion was the Baggage car. Having selected and inspected the floor I took the first chassis available and was about to start fitting screws when I realised that there were too few holes. It seems after a look at all the others that the Baggage Car chassis has more screw-holes than the rest. I'd have absolutely hated to get several coaches all screwed together before finding that out. :eek::eek:

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(Quick temporary assembly to see the effect.)
 
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For the uninitiated, what is a Jackson Sharpe Coach, is it a Bachmann brand or prototype type.
 
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For the uninitiated, what is a Jackson Sharpe Coach, is it a Bachmann brand or prototype type.
Jackson Sharpe were one of the big US carriage builders in the early days, and also built narrow gauge coaches.

Carter Bros were another big builder, but they tended to turn up on site and build the whole railroad on location, wagons, coaches, buildings - everything except locos :nod::nod:
 
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For the uninitiated, what is a Jackson Sharpe Coach, is it a Bachmann brand or prototype type.
As a slight digression, and in case anyone else has the same question, the Jackson & Sharpe photo collection is in the Delaware (State) Public Archive.

http://delaware.contentdm.oclc.org/...9&DMHEIGHT=245&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=&DMROTATE=0
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The Bachmann coach is considerably compressed [so you have to compress the passenger's feet to get them in.] Accucraft makes a similar coach in 1:20.3 which is almost twice as long.
 
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The Bachmann coach is considerably compressed [so you have to compress the passenger's feet to get them in.
They've got considerably fewer windows as well (Thank goodness!:sweating:!:sweating:!:sweating:!:sweating:!). 17 - 12!

Accucraft makes a similar coach in 1:20.3 which is almost twice as long.
And about 3 times the price, certainly this side of the puddle. :eek::eek: If and when you can get them.
 
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Now that will look *really* silly on a R1 curve!
:eek::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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Now that will look *really* silly on a R1 curve!
:eek::rofl::rofl::rofl:
It would, but it won't come to that - it does struggle on R3 though, or even Aristo's truer 8ft curves (I still have a circle of 8ft curves dotted around the garden).
 
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Hey, I have one converted to a 44' 15 window version that has an extra window insterted in the side! Try getting that around R3s.

Anyway, it has several people in it (segue back to the original thread,) that didn't have to have a foot amputation. However, it is tough to get a 1:20.3 person in the seats.
 
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Having collected together almost all the bits to re-assemble these, I wanted to make a start in earnest. The big trouble is that as usual Earnest is nowhere to be found!

All the couplings have been changed to Accu Z2 (see other thread) and everything re-sprayed or painted,

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All the masking tape has been removed and a start to refitting the glazing made.

I thought; next stage, screw the floors back in. This is the first point where I could have come unstuck. By good chance/luck/happenstance I happened to think that the easiest to get near completion was the Baggage car. Having selected and inspected the floor I took the first chassis available and was about to start fitting screws when I realised that there were too few holes. It seems after a look at all the others that the Baggage Car chassis has more screw-holes than the rest. I'd have absolutely hated to get several coaches all screwed together before finding that out. :eek::eek:

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(Quick temporary assembly to see the effect.)
Did you strip off the original paint or just prime straight over it?
If stripped what did you use?
I have 3 bright yellow ones that just have to be painted something more realistic for my railway theme.
Think I will do the strip and put each cars parts in a separate marked bag (eg combine, coach, observation) that stays with the car as it goes through the reno process.
 
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Beauty thing is, these cars, well the coach and baggage, are dead ringers for some that ran here in NZ.
 
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Did you strip off the original paint or just prime straight over it?
If stripped what did you use?
I have 3 bright yellow ones that just have to be painted something more realistic for my railway theme.
Think I will do the strip and put each cars parts in a separate marked bag (eg combine, coach, observation) that stays with the car as it goes through the reno process.
I had two yellow ones as well! I stripped them down and put the parts into the dishwasher, then all I did was give them a light but thorough rub down with 600 grit W&D. The plastic primer seemed to be well adhered so I'm not expecting problems, but only time will tell. I did put most small parts in tubs, but there's always something that get moved or left out when a project takes this long. The baggage car had previously been repainted (not very well), that took a bit more care, but looks fine. Transfers I just rubbed off with the W&D.

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