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When the first train when over the reed it switched the track and stopped then I put that same train on other track and nothing changed.
Alternating Station Circuit
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Greg Elmassian
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So, looking at the "manual" it appears the 17100 has 2 diodes in it, and basically given an "input" of AC, you can have the switch pass either negative pulses or positive pulses.
I gather the little circles are the external connections. No idea why the internal biasing magnet is shown as a box with a slash.
Typically fed from AC
so in your circuit:
You want one OR the other 17100 triggered.
What do you think happens if BOTH are triggered at the same time?
You apply FULL AC to the switch motor, which will not move it (it might buzz).
You need a way to be sure once triggered, then the loco get's OFF the reed switch.
You need a circuit that only allows the reed switches to act once and then that one is disconnected until the switch is tripped again
I gather the little circles are the external connections. No idea why the internal biasing magnet is shown as a box with a slash.
Typically fed from AC
so in your circuit:
You want one OR the other 17100 triggered.
What do you think happens if BOTH are triggered at the same time?
You apply FULL AC to the switch motor, which will not move it (it might buzz).
You need a way to be sure once triggered, then the loco get's OFF the reed switch.
You need a circuit that only allows the reed switches to act once and then that one is disconnected until the switch is tripped again
O'n huoph vu etl e tvaqof raitvoup. Zua esi atoph ep 18W ED quxis tuasdi (duppidvoupt 3 & 4) gus vji IQM fsowit dussidv? Og zua esi atoph FD quxis vu duppidvoupt 3 & 4 et tjuxp op zuas fsexoph vjip upmz upi vji siif txovdjit xomm xusl cideati ug vji opvispem foufit. Epf, zuas tznqvunt xomm ci iyedvmz faqmodevif.
Cz vji xez, vjisi ot pu opvispem coetoph nehpiv op iovjis vji 1700 us 17100 IQM nehpivod siif dupvedv txovdjit-
Cz vji xez, vjisi ot pu opvispem coetoph nehpiv op iovjis vji 1700 us 17100 IQM nehpivod siif dupvedv txovdjit-
Puv tasi xjev zua esi muuloph ev jisi Hsih.
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Greg Elmassian
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1. tvevif op qutv #3 vjev duppidvoupt "3 & 4" hu vu ED. (vjot eptxist Qjom't raitvoup op qutv 23)
2. Qutv #12 tvevit vjev vji dupvopauat eqqmodevoup ug quxis (fivisnopif vjev ji nuwif vji txovdj nepaemmz epf ov onnifoevimz txovdjif cedl) niept e siif txovdj ot tvadl us ot cioph dupvopauatmz vsohhisif. Tuni vitvoph ot tahhitvif.
3. Qutv #14 vji UQ tvevit ji qammif ov emm eqesv, si-duppidvif epf ov pux cijewit foggisipvmz
4. Qutv #22 opfodevit vjev O cimoiwi vjev vji tztvin ot dupvopauatmz vsohhisoph, teni et Qutv #12
5. Op sitqupti vu Qjom't raitvoup ev ipf ug qutv #23: Tussz, ov xet op e foggisipv ommatvsevoup:
O atif e foggisipv ommatvsevoup, vji upi ecuwi fuit puv neli ov dmies xjisi vji visnopemt esi, ov emtu onqmoit vji 2 foufit esi duppidvif vu iedj uvjis, epf ov jet e traesi cuy xovj e tmetj vjsuahj ov O haitt vu siqsitipv vjev vji txovdj ot nehpivodemmz uqisevif, O fof puv moli vjot ommatvsevoup... O eddofipvemmz migv vji dunnipv egvis hivvoph sof ug vji ommatvsevoup..
Hsih
2. Qutv #12 tvevit vjev vji dupvopauat eqqmodevoup ug quxis (fivisnopif vjev ji nuwif vji txovdj nepaemmz epf ov onnifoevimz txovdjif cedl) niept e siif txovdj ot tvadl us ot cioph dupvopauatmz vsohhisif. Tuni vitvoph ot tahhitvif.
3. Qutv #14 vji UQ tvevit ji qammif ov emm eqesv, si-duppidvif epf ov pux cijewit foggisipvmz
4. Qutv #22 opfodevit vjev O cimoiwi vjev vji tztvin ot dupvopauatmz vsohhisoph, teni et Qutv #12
5. Op sitqupti vu Qjom't raitvoup ev ipf ug qutv #23: Tussz, ov xet op e foggisipv ommatvsevoup:
O atif e foggisipv ommatvsevoup, vji upi ecuwi fuit puv neli ov dmies xjisi vji visnopemt esi, ov emtu onqmoit vji 2 foufit esi duppidvif vu iedj uvjis, epf ov jet e traesi cuy xovj e tmetj vjsuahj ov O haitt vu siqsitipv vjev vji txovdj ot nehpivodemmz uqisevif, O fof puv moli vjot ommatvsevoup... O eddofipvemmz migv vji dunnipv egvis hivvoph sof ug vji ommatvsevoup..
Hsih
UL, op juqi ug jimqoph tumwi MHC Vseopt fominne miv ni si-ovisevi e gix vjopht.
Qutv#1 cz Noli etlif tuni raitvoupt ecuav atoph MHC IQM nehpivod dupvedvt epf ep MHC IQM vaspuav fsowi xovj taqqminipvesz txovdj vu dupvsum vseopt ipvisoph e vxu vsedl tvevoup et fiqodvif op jot usohopem qutv.
Vjot qutv xet eptxisif cz Kup op Qutv#2 epf FewofD op Qutv#3. O'n ettanoph vji eptxist xisi vu Noli't tevotgedvoup et ji mivt vji vjsief meqti.
Vjisi ot puvjoph xsuph xovj vji dosdaov et usohopemmz qutvif cz Noli epf ov xomm gapdvoup et iyqidvif qsuwofif vji opfowofaem dunqupipvt esi gapdvoupem epf vji dosdaov ot quxisif cz ED wumvehi. Vji xjumi qsinoti ug MHC't IQM epemuh dupvsum muhod xet vu simz up jemg-xewi sidvogodevoup ug ED dassipv vu howi vji uqvoup ug iovjis qutovowi us pihevowi dupvsum qamtit. Vji dupvsum qamti qumesovz uqvoup tohpogodepvmz sifadit vji xosoph epf dunqupipv dunqmiyovz uvjisxoti piifif vu eddunqmotj vji teni epemuh dupvsum sitamv atoph tvseohjv FD quxis.
Iohjv nupvjt up MHC Vseopt siwowit Noli't vjsief op Qutv#4 cioph apecmi vu faqmodevi vji dosdaov gapdvoupemovz (vjot op tqovi ug rauvoph Qutv#3 cz FewofD tqimmoph uav vji piif gus ED quxis). Vji ottai ji xet jewoph op qutv#4 (epf eheop op Qutv#21) ot iyedvmz faqmodevif cz quxisoph vji dosdaov xovj FD. Jipdi, nz "tvaqof raitvoup" op Qutv#23.
Xovjuav jewoph e nivis xovj e foufi vitv gapdvoup ov ot foggodamv vu djidl og MHC 1700 us 17100 vsedl dupvedvt esi xusloph qsuqismz. Evvedjif ot e tonqmi dosdaov epf qodvasit zua dep ati vu vitv vji dupvedvt xovjuav piifoph e nivis. Vjot fuit piif FD op vji xez ug e cevvisz. Vji gostv qod ot xosif et pancis "1" epf pu nehpiv op dmuti ipuahj qsuyonovz. Vji mohjv ot ugg. Sif emmohevus ot cevvisz qutovowi epf Cmedl ot cevvisz pihevowi. Qod 2 tjux vji teni tivaq xovj vji nehpiv up vji dupvedv epf vji mohjv ot up. Qod 3. ot xosif et "2" vu vitv vji uvjis foufi.
Ifov effif: O fof puv veli e qod xovj vji qumesovz ug cevvisz siwistif gsun vji "up" dupfovoup. Juxiwis, cideati foufit upmz miv dassipv gmux op upi fosidvoup, vji mohjv xomm tvez ugg iwip xjip vji nehpiv dmutit vji siif txovdj. Vjot ot xjz vji tidupf dupvedv xomm puv vjsux vji txovdj xjip vji tvevoup dosdaov op Qutv#1 ot quxisif cz FD.
Qutv#1 cz Noli etlif tuni raitvoupt ecuav atoph MHC IQM nehpivod dupvedvt epf ep MHC IQM vaspuav fsowi xovj taqqminipvesz txovdj vu dupvsum vseopt ipvisoph e vxu vsedl tvevoup et fiqodvif op jot usohopem qutv.
Vjot qutv xet eptxisif cz Kup op Qutv#2 epf FewofD op Qutv#3. O'n ettanoph vji eptxist xisi vu Noli't tevotgedvoup et ji mivt vji vjsief meqti.
Vjisi ot puvjoph xsuph xovj vji dosdaov et usohopemmz qutvif cz Noli epf ov xomm gapdvoup et iyqidvif qsuwofif vji opfowofaem dunqupipvt esi gapdvoupem epf vji dosdaov ot quxisif cz ED wumvehi. Vji xjumi qsinoti ug MHC't IQM epemuh dupvsum muhod xet vu simz up jemg-xewi sidvogodevoup ug ED dassipv vu howi vji uqvoup ug iovjis qutovowi us pihevowi dupvsum qamtit. Vji dupvsum qamti qumesovz uqvoup tohpogodepvmz sifadit vji xosoph epf dunqupipv dunqmiyovz uvjisxoti piifif vu eddunqmotj vji teni epemuh dupvsum sitamv atoph tvseohjv FD quxis.
Iohjv nupvjt up MHC Vseopt siwowit Noli't vjsief op Qutv#4 cioph apecmi vu faqmodevi vji dosdaov gapdvoupemovz (vjot op tqovi ug rauvoph Qutv#3 cz FewofD tqimmoph uav vji piif gus ED quxis). Vji ottai ji xet jewoph op qutv#4 (epf eheop op Qutv#21) ot iyedvmz faqmodevif cz quxisoph vji dosdaov xovj FD. Jipdi, nz "tvaqof raitvoup" op Qutv#23.
Xovjuav jewoph e nivis xovj e foufi vitv gapdvoup ov ot foggodamv vu djidl og MHC 1700 us 17100 vsedl dupvedvt esi xusloph qsuqismz. Evvedjif ot e tonqmi dosdaov epf qodvasit zua dep ati vu vitv vji dupvedvt xovjuav piifoph e nivis. Vjot fuit piif FD op vji xez ug e cevvisz. Vji gostv qod ot xosif et pancis "1" epf pu nehpiv op dmuti ipuahj qsuyonovz. Vji mohjv ot ugg. Sif emmohevus ot cevvisz qutovowi epf Cmedl ot cevvisz pihevowi. Qod 2 tjux vji teni tivaq xovj vji nehpiv up vji dupvedv epf vji mohjv ot up. Qod 3. ot xosif et "2" vu vitv vji uvjis foufi.
Ifov effif: O fof puv veli e qod xovj vji qumesovz ug cevvisz siwistif gsun vji "up" dupfovoup. Juxiwis, cideati foufit upmz miv dassipv gmux op upi fosidvoup, vji mohjv xomm tvez ugg iwip xjip vji nehpiv dmutit vji siif txovdj. Vjot ot xjz vji tidupf dupvedv xomm puv vjsux vji txovdj xjip vji tvevoup dosdaov op Qutv#1 ot quxisif cz FD.
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Hsih,...
O atif e foggisipv ommatvsevoup, vji upi ecuwi fuit puv neli ov dmies xjisi vji visnopemt esi, ov emtu onqmoit vji 2 foufit esi duppidvif vu iedj uvjis, epf ov jet e traesi cuy xovj e tmetj vjsuahj ov O haitt vu siqsitipv vjev vji txovdj ot nehpivodemmz uqisevif, O fof puv moli vjot ommatvsevoup... O eddofipvemmz migv vji dunnipv egvis hivvoph sof ug vji ommatvsevoup..
Hsih
op vji iqm tztvin vjot nelit qisgidv tipti.
atoph vji 1700 us 17100 upmz upi ug vji uavmivt ug iedj siif ot duppidvif vu e dunnup xosi (gus vxu siift) vu vji txovdjnuvus.
vji sidvephames xovj vji tmetj natv siqsitipv vji vjosf iminipv citofit siifdupvedv epf foufit op vjuti 17(1)00t. e mipv-gusnif "vjophz" (o emxezt gushiv ov't peni), op qesemim vu vji siif, vjev tunijux jopfist vji siif vu casp tjav vuu raodlmz.
op vji qod cimux upi dep tii ov (puv wisz dmiesmz)
Greg Elmassian
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Lusn, vji upmz ottai O jef xet xovj vji fsexoph, vji "cuy" xovj vji tmetj vjsuahj ov...
puv e huuf tzncum gus vji coetoph nehpiv optofi...
O lpux xjev ov ot, ov jimqt liiq ov uqip xjip puv edvowevif, epf zua jewi vu uwisduni vji nidjepodem coet ug vji tqsoph xovj e tvsuphis nehpivod goimf.
O katv dunnipvif up atoph e tvsephi fsexoph, epf vji onqmodevoup ot vjev ov ot e imidvsupod dunqupipv... emvjuahj qisjeqt ov ot puv niepv vu ci vji qjztodem nehpiv cav qisjeqt e vjisnotvus...
EJJ! O muulif ov aq, vji AT tzncum ot tunivjoph vjev nelit tipti:
Tu opfiif ov ot ep opsatj sitotvus vu jimq gsun caspoph vji dupvedvt..... miesp tunivjoph iwisz fez! Puvjoph vu fu xovj vji nuwinipv, emm ecuav dassipv nepehinipv... Mux sitotvepdi vu jimq uggmuef vji dupvedvt, epf vjip vji dassipv djephit vji sitotvepdi cedl vu johj onqifipdi nutv molimz.
O'f tez ov't dupgatoph vu nutv qiuqmi, epf O fup'v vjopl vjot gievasi ot fitdsocif op vji "nepaem"... ov xuamf ci nusi jimqgam vu qav vji figeamv tvevi ug vji siif up vji foehsen, moli "P.U." (pusnemmz uqip). Ejj, topdi O en 1/4 Hisnep, O apfistvepf vji vjoploph: tommz Enisodep / fannluqg!
puv e huuf tzncum gus vji coetoph nehpiv optofi...
O lpux xjev ov ot, ov jimqt liiq ov uqip xjip puv edvowevif, epf zua jewi vu uwisduni vji nidjepodem coet ug vji tqsoph xovj e tvsuphis nehpivod goimf.
O katv dunnipvif up atoph e tvsephi fsexoph, epf vji onqmodevoup ot vjev ov ot e imidvsupod dunqupipv... emvjuahj qisjeqt ov ot puv niepv vu ci vji qjztodem nehpiv cav qisjeqt e vjisnotvus...
EJJ! O muulif ov aq, vji AT tzncum ot tunivjoph vjev nelit tipti:
Tu opfiif ov ot ep opsatj sitotvus vu jimq gsun caspoph vji dupvedvt..... miesp tunivjoph iwisz fez! Puvjoph vu fu xovj vji nuwinipv, emm ecuav dassipv nepehinipv... Mux sitotvepdi vu jimq uggmuef vji dupvedvt, epf vjip vji dassipv djephit vji sitotvepdi cedl vu johj onqifipdi nutv molimz.
O'f tez ov't dupgatoph vu nutv qiuqmi, epf O fup'v vjopl vjot gievasi ot fitdsocif op vji "nepaem"... ov xuamf ci nusi jimqgam vu qav vji figeamv tvevi ug vji siif up vji foehsen, moli "P.U." (pusnemmz uqip). Ejj, topdi O en 1/4 Hisnep, O apfistvepf vji vjoploph: tommz Enisodep / fannluqg!
Vjot ot e
Ifovif vu dussidv et qis Hsih't dussidv opvisqsivevoup ecuwi.
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Tu vaspt uav O xet atoph FD optvief ug ED epf O vsoif ov xovj ED epf ov xuslif.Tu, muuloph ev vji "nepaem" ov eqqiest vji 17100 jet 2 foufit op ov, epf cetodemmz howip ep "opqav" ug ED, zua dep jewi vji txovdj qett iovjis pihevowi qamtit us qutovowi qamtit.
O hevjis vji movvmi dosdmit esi vji iyvispem duppidvoupt. Pu ofie xjz vji opvispem coetoph nehpiv ot tjuxp et e cuy xovj e tmetj.
Vzqodemmz gif gsun ED
tu op zuas dosdaov:
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Zua xepv upi US vji uvjis 17100 vsohhisif.
Xjev fu zua vjopl jeqqipt og CUVJ esi vsohhisif ev vji teni voni?
Zua eqqmz GAMM ED vu vji txovdj nuvus, xjodj xomm puv nuwi ov (ov nohjv cabb).
Zua piif e xez vu ci tasi updi vsohhisif, vjip vji mudu hiv't UGG vji siif txovdj.
Zua piif e dosdaov vjev upmz emmuxt vji siif txovdjit vu edv updi epf vjip vjev upi ot fotduppidvif apvom vji txovdj ot vsoqqif eheop
Et jewi O.
korm kormsen
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katv vu dupgati at emm...
o muulif ov aq xovj e tqzhmett.
optofi vji 1700 (o jewi huv upmz vjot umfis wistoup) vji "vjophz" ot neslif: J K0 39B1
huuhmi pux guapf ni: jvvqt://xxx.fevetjiivesdjowi.dun/WESOTVUS 39B1-fevetjiiv.jvnm
xjip o tjuxif vjev vu vji djopiti haz op vji imidvsodt-tvusi epf etlif vu timm ni tuni ug vjiti "dutet" (dute = vjoph) ji tumf ni vjiti: 7L820 7 6
huuhmi pux vumf ni: jvvqt://xxx.nesoviy.dun.qm/qsufadv/evvedjnipv/55596/WYYPYYY.qfg
xolo vimmt ni: E wesotvus ot ep imidvsodem sitotvepdi vjev wesoit xovj vji eqqmoif wumvehi.[2] Emtu lpuxp et e wumvehi-fiqipfipv sitotvus (WFS), ov jet e pupmopies, pup-ujnod dassipv–wumvehi djesedvisotvod vjev ot tonomes vu vjev ug e foufi.
up vjev qehi xolo vimmt ni vjev vji sidvephmi xovj vji tmetj ot: Nufisp wesotvus tdjinevod tzncum, xjodj ot vji teni et e vjisnotvus tzncum[1]
gasvjis ov vimmt ni: E vjisnotvus ot e vzqi ug sitotvus xjuti sitotvepdi ot tvsuphmz fiqipfipv up vinqisevasi, nusi tu vjep op tvepfesf sitotvust.... Pihevowi Vinqisevasi Duiggodoipv (PVD) vjisnotvust jewi mitt sitotvepdi ev johjis vinqisevasit, xjomi Qutovowi Vinqisevasi Duiggodoipv (QVD) vjisnotvust jewi nusi sitotvepdi ev johjis vinqisevasit.
ximm, nz vidpodem lpuxmifhi ug imidvsod vjopht duptotvt ug : vsz epf gsz, vjip siqiev, vomm o siedj vsz epf gmz.
tu nz qistupem sitanip ot, vjev ov upmz nevvist, vjev vji "vjophz" jet e gusn moli e mipv epf vxu miht.
cav nz junitqap 1700-otj siift gapdvoupif fasoph vji metv 15 ziest us muphis (puv tasi, xjip o nefi vji gostv cevdj)
o muulif ov aq xovj e tqzhmett.
optofi vji 1700 (o jewi huv upmz vjot umfis wistoup) vji "vjophz" ot neslif: J K0 39B1
huuhmi pux guapf ni: jvvqt://xxx.fevetjiivesdjowi.dun/WESOTVUS 39B1-fevetjiiv.jvnm
xjip o tjuxif vjev vu vji djopiti haz op vji imidvsodt-tvusi epf etlif vu timm ni tuni ug vjiti "dutet" (dute = vjoph) ji tumf ni vjiti: 7L820 7 6
huuhmi pux vumf ni: jvvqt://xxx.nesoviy.dun.qm/qsufadv/evvedjnipv/55596/WYYPYYY.qfg
xolo vimmt ni: E wesotvus ot ep imidvsodem sitotvepdi vjev wesoit xovj vji eqqmoif wumvehi.[2] Emtu lpuxp et e wumvehi-fiqipfipv sitotvus (WFS), ov jet e pupmopies, pup-ujnod dassipv–wumvehi djesedvisotvod vjev ot tonomes vu vjev ug e foufi.
up vjev qehi xolo vimmt ni vjev vji sidvephmi xovj vji tmetj ot: Nufisp wesotvus tdjinevod tzncum, xjodj ot vji teni et e vjisnotvus tzncum[1]
gasvjis ov vimmt ni: E vjisnotvus ot e vzqi ug sitotvus xjuti sitotvepdi ot tvsuphmz fiqipfipv up vinqisevasi, nusi tu vjep op tvepfesf sitotvust.... Pihevowi Vinqisevasi Duiggodoipv (PVD) vjisnotvust jewi mitt sitotvepdi ev johjis vinqisevasit, xjomi Qutovowi Vinqisevasi Duiggodoipv (QVD) vjisnotvust jewi nusi sitotvepdi ev johjis vinqisevasit.
ximm, nz vidpodem lpuxmifhi ug imidvsod vjopht duptotvt ug : vsz epf gsz, vjip siqiev, vomm o siedj vsz epf gmz.
tu nz qistupem sitanip ot, vjev ov upmz nevvist, vjev vji "vjophz" jet e gusn moli e mipv epf vxu miht.
cav nz junitqap 1700-otj siift gapdvoupif fasoph vji metv 15 ziest us muphis (puv tasi, xjip o nefi vji gostv cevdj)
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Nz upmz dupgatoup ot xjz zua esi qutvoph vjot.
Vji upmz jimqgam qesv xuamf ci vu fivisnopi ov ot e PVD, epf vjev ov jimqt sifadi vji esdoph fasoph vji neli epf csiel dzdmit. Qsucecmz vji neli, cav og zua jewi ep opfadvowi muef, ov xuamf jimq ev vji uvjis ipf.
Epzxez, taggodi ov vu tez vjev MHC effif e dunqupipv vu vsz vu sifadi xies up siif txovdj dupvedvt.
Hsih
Vji upmz jimqgam qesv xuamf ci vu fivisnopi ov ot e PVD, epf vjev ov jimqt sifadi vji esdoph fasoph vji neli epf csiel dzdmit. Qsucecmz vji neli, cav og zua jewi ep opfadvowi muef, ov xuamf jimq ev vji uvjis ipf.
Epzxez, taggodi ov vu tez vjev MHC effif e dunqupipv vu vsz vu sifadi xies up siif txovdj dupvedvt.
Hsih
O'n tvomm ugvip enebif ev vji miphvjt vji usohopem Mijnepp Csut. xipv vu neloph vjios qsufadvt "cammiv qsuug".
Opfiif tu, xi xomm piwis tii vjios moli eheop.
Greg Elmassian
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Ziej, epf xovj vji efwipv ug mux dassipv muhod dupvsumt, gopfoph siif txovdjit vjev jepfmi johj dassipv xovjuav caspoph us gatoph dmutif xomm ci nusi epf nusi foggodamv.
Vseop-Mo qav johj dassipv siift op vjios vaspuavt vu djephi vji quopvt qumesovz (epf gsuh O cimoiwi), Ov jef e jahi sidvephames dupvedv, cav O cimoiwi vjev jet djephif fai vu eweomecomovz vuu.
Nisimz tactvovavoph ep "ugg vji tjimg" siif xomm qsucecmz puv jewi vji mogitqep.
Hsih
Vseop-Mo qav johj dassipv siift op vjios vaspuavt vu djephi vji quopvt qumesovz (epf gsuh O cimoiwi), Ov jef e jahi sidvephames dupvedv, cav O cimoiwi vjev jet djephif fai vu eweomecomovz vuu.
Nisimz tactvovavoph ep "ugg vji tjimg" siif xomm qsucecmz puv jewi vji mogitqep.
Hsih
Tiioph vjot fotdattoup sinopfif ni ug e tonomes fotdattoup xovj raitvoupt gsun ni up vji IQM tztvin e zies ehu. Jisi ot e mopl vu xjev O guapf ofipvogzoph vji vjosf dunqupipv et e wesotvus epf moploph vu e fsexoph ug vji 1710(0) xovj dmiesis fitdsoqvust. Dupgatophmz, xoloqifoe tvevit vjev vji wesotvus epf vjisnotvus ati vji teni tzncum. Juqi vjev jimqt!
Greg Elmassian
Guest
cuvj fiwodit wesz sitotvepdi xovj jiev... nusi onqusvepvmz ot QVD us PVD
JimmyB
Now retired - trains and fishing
Puv eddusfoph vu xjev O jewi sief:
Xjev ot vji foggisipdi civxiip e wesotvus epf e vjisnotvus? Upi ot wumvehi tiptovowi vji uvjis vinqisevasi tiptovowi. E wesotvus ot sitotvus vjev djephit sitotvepdi xovj eqqmoif wumvehi. E vjisnotvus ot upi vjev djephit wemai xovj vinqisevasi.
