Adding missing sounds

Nodrog1826

Nodrog1826

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Ok a daft question, to which i think i may allready know the answer.

My Crok loco has some missing sound files, it has been this way since the Massoth chip was supplied when it was digitised, and has not bothered me.

But....

If i want to add these missing sound files, how do i go about it, can it be done via the central station or can it only be done by a prog module?
I should add that i am not sure which version of the chip i have, need to read CV7 to see if it is upgradable first....
 
Missing sounds?????

How do you know that there are missing sounds? Don't understand how there can be missing unless there was a programming cock up which should be quite evident when playing the "missing" sounds.


The following should be available on the 8230040 Crok XLS...
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PC Module needed to upload firmware and sounds to an XLS decoder Gordon, you are welcome to send the decoder on a little trip down south to me if you wish.
 
Mark

Firstly according to the chip de structions:rolleyes:its a 8230040 version 1.4 - 1/08, so it may not be upgradeable, think you need to have on 2 onwards.

As for the sounds, i get no response from F13 upwards on the navigator so looks on the face of it i dont have 9,10 and 11 on the list,
now not sure what the 0 starting signal is, i am assuming its just a whistle when you turn the dial, if its not that then i aint got it...
 
I cant hear 7 and 8 on mine
 
Steve said:
I cant hear 7 and 8 on mine
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You must have the diesel version Steve.................................
 
I never thought of that Paul, maybe:wits::wits::wits::wits:

Anyhow sort of getting back to the tale...Did myself a vid of the sounds (yes I know it sounds daft videoing sounds) and a learn yersel Geordie thrown in, but it wont upload to U TUBE:wits:

Just a note of interest I think the compressor sound is on a different F number sounds like its 5 and not 9...
 
Well Gordon, your XLS can be updated but not with the PC module, it will need to go back to the factory to be done (I have had a couple upgraded this way). The good news here is that they will do it FOC bar the postage. The down side is that you will not have it for a couple of weeks at least.
 
Ok Mark, i think i can live with it, for the moment....

Just out of interest i have figured out the following.

F's 1,2,3 and 4 are as stated in the list F5 appears to be the F9 compressor sound, F6 is sound off, 7 and 8 have no sound function, but i think thats the way they are,
F9 has no sound, but it appears to be set to F5.
F10,11 and 12 are as they should be F13-15 and 0 have no sound.

I think i have a headache now...:confused:
 
Looks as if i could well have a version 2 chip, still have the German Instruction set, which state its a V2 chip on the front cover.

Having checked CV 7 i get 021, so i assume its a 2.1 chip, unless someone tells me different.
 
The early versions of XLS can not have sounds programmed beyond F12. You can however program switching speed (CV59) and switchable delay time (CV64) to function buttons beyond F12. If you do that you can utilize all sounds but one and have the switching functionality as well. I haven't tried this, but if the sound on/off is assigned to a F-button beyond F12, you can also utilize the last sound as well (I then include the functionality 'Aggregates on/off' (CV148) as a sound).

However, you can assign any sounds for F1-F12 as you wish according to the table provided by Mark in post #2. You don't have to upgrade the XLS to do that.
 
I think I get that....................................hang on who am I kidding,:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Anyhow going to dispatch the chip off, after open heart surgery on the crok, the patient will no doubt be very crok for a while:bigsmile:
 
Just a quick update....

Chip has now returned from its excursion to the South Coast, and loco is up and running again.

Cheers Mark....:thumbup:
 
Well as they say pride comes befor a fall.

Not sure what I have done, but it looks as if I may have accidently change a CV, as the motor running sounds continue for a few seconds after the loco has stopped. Have trawled through the list of CV's I have the all look to be ok, just carnt figure it out.

Its probably something simple, but not as simple as me...
 
Found this post really useful - explains so much about a couple of second hand locos that i have bought.
Changing F numbers is going to be really advanced dark arts.
Can anyone describe what sounds no 10 - Security Signal, no 11 Main switch are ? (I haven't got sounds above no 9, Station announcement which is on F13).

Chris

Loco said:
The early versions of XLS can not have sounds programmed beyond F12. You can however program switching speed (CV59) and switchable delay time (CV64) to function buttons beyond F12. If you do that you can utilize all sounds but one and have the switching functionality as well. I haven't tried this, but if the sound on/off is assigned to a F-button beyond F12, you can also utilize the last sound as well (I then include the functionality 'Aggregates on/off' (CV148) as a sound).

However, you can assign any sounds for F1-F12 as you wish according to the table provided by Mark in post #2. You don't have to upgrade the XLS to do that.
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If I recall, there was actually nothing wrong with Gordon's XLS, i.e. all sounds were present in the decoder.

One piece of useful information in the manual which can be easily overlooked is:

Important: In case the F-key assignment is greater than F12,
CV49=Bit0 must be set to „“0“ (only parallel data processing)

Which means that if you want to use F12 and higher to trigger anything then you must switch off the ability for the decoder to handle the MTS serial function recognition. Gordon's decoder (like most) was set to process serial & parallel commands which caused it to ignore F12 and above.
 
Gold star to muns !!!!!
WE have three more sounds -now to find the other loco with the issues....
;D ;D ;D

Chris


muns said:
If I recall, there was actually nothing wrong with Gordon's XLS, i.e. all sounds were present in the decoder.

One piece of useful information in the manual which can be easily overlooked is:

Important: In case the F-key assignment is greater than F12,
CV49=Bit0 must be set to „“0“ (only parallel data processing)

Which means that if you want to use F12 and higher to trigger anything then you must switch off the ability for the decoder to handle the MTS serial function recognition. Gordon's decoder (like most) was set to process serial & parallel commands which caused it to ignore F12 and above.
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