Width and height of LGB locomotives

[The Norwegian Fox]

Hello!

Does anybody know the width and height of these locomotives, or possibly have the locomotives and could measure?

* LGB 2171 / LGB 25703.

* HSB Mallet from LGB or Trainline (As far as I have understood, LGB and Trainline have used the same main dimensions, but please correct me if I am wrong).

Lengths of the locos are easy to find on the Internet, but I would like to know the height and the width as well. Height should be measured to the top of the roof (and, for instance, not to the top of the whistle or or to the chimney). Width should be measured over the driver's cab or the tanks, but not including smaller parts such as handles, etc.

I can find some measurements online, but I have found that it varies a bit what the manufacturers include in the measurements they give.

I am building models of carriages from a far gone narrow gauge railway here in Norway. The scale is 1:20, but as the prototypes were relatively small, many locomotives in scale 1:22.5 or 16mm will be significantly too high and/or wide in front of the carriages. Technically almost any loco on 45mm would work fine, but I want it to look proper, having seen too many model trains with a huge loco in front of small carriages.

Thank you very much in advance.

 

[Norfolk Jim]

Iv'e got a pair of built U Class loco's on the desk that I've been working on and I've been doing a bit of a deep dive after just buying a third cheap one to do some major rework on so I can help you out. As LGB has made so many variants over the years (there is a great post about it on here) there will be some difference's from loco to loco. The Zillertal loco's you mention have the high roof and the top of the roof is 141mm from the top of the rail, the low roof variant is 130mm. The flower pot smoke stack is 170mm tall, the straight one is 164mm. Widths all look the same at 103mm measured on the roof and 98.5mm on the body.

 

[The Norwegian Fox]

Iv'e got a pair of built U Class loco's on the desk that I've been working on and I've been doing a bit of a deep dive after just buying a third cheap one to do some major rework on so I can help you out. As LGB has made so many variants over the years (there is a great post about it on here) there will be some difference's from loco to loco. The Zillertal loco's you mention have the high roof and the top of the roof is 141mm from the top of the rail, the low roof variant is 130mm. The flower pot smoke stack is 170mm tall, the straight one is 164mm. Widths all look the same at 103mm measured on the roof and 98.5mm on the body.

Thank you very much for the information! It certainly is very useful. And thanks for the link to the other post, which I hadn't spotted when looking for information on the matter. I didn't know that LGB had made that many variants of the U Class locos. However, looking at various copies on the Internet, I can tell whether they have got the high roof or the low roof. It seems like the hight (for the high roof version) and width is quite similar to Stainz (?).

 

[Norfolk Jim]

Lol, it's like you know what I've got out of storage! Putting them back to back the Stainz is 1mm shorter and interestingly wider at 110mm on the roof and 105mm on the body.

 

[The Norwegian Fox]

It is just an impression that I have got, that anyone who is running LGB locos, has got at least one Stainz on the track... Besides of that, I have got one myself, and as I think that the Stainz doesn't look too large in front of my carriages, it is interesting to compare other locos with it. It seems that the U2 with the high roof will fit well.

My prototype railway line had small Mallet locos like the ones that Decauville used at the exhibition in Paris in 1889. It sure would be nice to run Mallets on my own ittle line, but the smallest Mallets I have found in G scale, are the HSB ones. As far as I can gather (without knowing the exact measurements), they are too big for my use. That is why I am looking for other locos that can look fine together with my carriages. I am happy with good ol' Stainz, but want to have a larger loco too (larger without being taller or wider....). So, this is where the U2 might seem to be a good choice. According to the information you gave me, the width of the U2 loco is even closer to the carriages (96 mm) than Stainz.

 

[korm kormsen]

It is just an impression that I have got, that anyone who is running LGB locos, has got at least one Stainz on the track...

the Stainz is like the Volkswagen Beetle. nothing special, but everybody has or had one. and it runs and runs and runs...