What weight rail does the RhB use?

hyphagon

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Hi,

As the question suggests does anyone know what weight (ie kg/m) rail the RhB use or have used over time? Just wondering which is more to scale: code 250 or 332.

I know when the first built the St. Moritz - Tirano line in 1906 they used 24.3kg/m (on other lines 25 or 27kg/m) which would be much smaller then code 250! But other then that I can't find any other sources. I'm guessing they must have renewed all this by now and if anyone knows when and what they changed to that would be awesome.

Many Thanks

Daniel
 
Daniel
Where do you intend to put your track?
AND,
What do you want? - A Garden Railway, or a model railway??

The bog-standard track from LGB et al for 'garden' use is way over-scale. BUT, it is robust. - You can walk on it, and things like points are much more forgiving.

If this is to be an indoor (or display) layout, then go for it..
Be aware the tyre-widths and flange-depths on LGB stock are also way over scale. - This to allow for less-than-perfect track alignment.
 
According to a very nice chap who drives on the RhB "the current type of rail for newly laid track is SBB I with a weight of 46,16 kg/m".
He also suggests current track standards are in the manual R30.1 "Handbuch f?r den Bau und die Instandhaltung der Fahrbahn", available at the RhB Bahnladen (shop)
 
Thanks for the quick replies.

Fantastic! so that's 101.77lb/m. Now using this website http://urbaneagle.com/data/RRrailsi...arching the RhB soo much easier! Daniel
 
hyphagon said:
Thanks for the quick replies.

(can you have a model railway outside?)
YES YOU CAN!

This is a garden railways forum after all?

If you are set on code 250 then Peco is the way to go. However, they only do left and right hand points of 4 ft radius, so no complex point work.

One other advantage of Code 332 apart from its robustness, is the availabilty of crossovers, double slips, 3 way points and various radii of points including curved ones from the different manufacturers....
 
Sorry for bringing it up earlier..
I reckon LGB, rail and track, is a Garden Railway..
If you use finer track, and build to scale, then it is a model railway.

I think we tend to use the 8/10 foot rule. and 'get away with murder'.
:thumbup:

Of course, YMMV..
AND,
Just to confuse the issue, I would say LGB III is a Garden Railway AND a Model Railway..
It is in a garden as well!

I know it is semantics, but it is how I see it, that's all..
All good fun though!!!!!!
 
To me (and this is a personal view only), a true Garden Railway is one that is integrated with the natural garden, with a trackbed that is part of the "real" garden landscape - while ones built on raised boards using the same sort of techniques to the smaller "indoor" scales are Model Railways that happen to be situated outside. There are fantastic examples of both, but my personal preference is for the former.

Back to the original subject, just one cautionary note: LGB locos with skates are very prone to shorting-out on the frogs of Peco code 250 points - as discovered at a recent open day where the owner of the layout has a lot of Peco trackwork, where my Saxon Meyer tripped the DCC out every time it entered a point!

Jon.
 
Just gently twisting up the outer edge of the skate stops them shorting out Peco points, only needs to go up a fraction to reduce the contact width enough.
There's garden railways with models amongst full size plants there's model railways which have scale scenery, sometimes using miniature plants. Oh and those that mix the two ;)
LGB track can look ok for a model
http://www.gscalecentral.net/tm?m=516&high=Klein+arosa < Link To http://www.forum.gscalece...m=516&high=Klein+arosa
 
I use Peco Code 200 in both points and track. Its easy to lay, easy to twist and looks very nice. I have nothing at all against LGB track (code 332) but to me it looks simply overscale, its too big, but I can see why others like it cos its very robust and durable.
On my side I also have a Modular Railroad, so its kept inside the garage, but Peco in its publications say that Code 200 is fine for outside use -ie Garden use, I simply think it looks better because of its much smaller size, points however are expensive, I paid £72 each for mine !!
 
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