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Just spotted this while doing some window shopping http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Garden-Railway-ManualA-step-by-step-guide-to-narrow-gauge-garden-railway-projec-/370653636814?pt=Non_Fiction&hash=item564cada8ce Gosh, it must be a very valuable insight into building and running a garden railway.

Also saw a listing for a used set of 3 used kit built GRS L&B coaches, nothing special, glossy finish, damaged running boards, two boxed ! Price............£750. And I thought GRS were going some at £450 for a 2nd hand built set they have, with a better finish. They never heard of Accucraft ?

Max.
 
These are extreme examples but I have been often shocked by people paying more on eBay than the regular new price.

I guess people just like to 'win' auctions. ::)
 
I'm wary of Schill bidding when items sell way over the real value. Once the item is sold you then message yourself and request that the sale be canceled and you won't argue with yourself. I discovered this practise accidentally..... Goes on a bit with people trying to hike prices on their own goods. Hard to detect now that bidders are anonymous.
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i should have mentioned, these are Buy It Now prices not bid prices. This is wahat they are listed at. The book is quite probably a mistake. The GRS L&B stuff, they have 2 sets of three at that price (one a "short" set), listed by a rather optimistic "antique trains" dealer who does not list any other G stuff, mainly N and OO/HO.
Max
 
I believe that the copy shown contains the secret of how to turn base metals into GOLD ! ???
 
I set these sellers straight if I know something about the item being sold. Some reply with a thank you - a lot of misrepresentation or silly pricing is based on a lack of knowledge. Then, of course, there are those that do not reply!

Some vendors just keep listing their unsold products at stupid prices. A LGB crane keeps resurfacing at a start of £80.00 - when identical items go for less than half and often appear on the same date!
 
Other thing I have learned about eBay is that some people will buy anything, I have sold those track laying gauges, foresight, hindsight; all as separate lots and all were bought....
You also have to wonder about items being sold cheaply and the identical item being sold by the same seller at unconscionable prices, eg ISD1825 sound module. The same seller had a job lot of 25 up for auction and the same job lot up BIN for $100. I sounded ( pardon the pun) the seller out, he obviously did not have a clue telling me that RRP on these was AU$ 40 ea...
Yeah... anyway I put in a bid and there were only 2 bidders, me and the seller, I withdrew at $7 and then put in a snipe for $20, won them at $11.50 and had to pay $8.50 post.... now when I won the auction the other BIN batch were withdrawn ;)

Caveat Emptor....
 
garrymartin said:
I believe that the copy shown contains the secret of how to turn base metals into GOLD ! ???
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That I can do, simples. What I want to know Garry is the secret to making Lord Percy's GREEN out of base metals. Not SOUTHERN GREEN just GREEN.(Blackadder, anybody remember).
Max.
 
maxi-model said:
That I can do, simples. What I want to know Garry is the secret to making Lord Percy's GREEN out of base metals. Not SOUTHERN GREEN just GREEN.(Blackadder, anybody remember).
Max.
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Now that IS a cunning plan..
So cunning, you could put a tail on it, and call it a fox!

Oh dear, I used to sneer at people who did this sort of thing with Monty Python quotes!
:o ;)
 
tramcar trev said:
I'm wary of Schill bidding when items sell way over the real value. Once the item is sold you then message yourself and request that the sale be canceled and you won't argue with yourself. I discovered this practise accidentally..... Goes on a bit with people trying to hike prices on their own goods. Hard to detect now that bidders are anonymous.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't Ebay detect a bid coming from the same location ?
 
Stainzmeister said:
[size=14pt]Call me old fashioned but what happened to honesty and integrity ?[/size]
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Honesty grows in the garden, and integrity is ballast used by Network Rail..
;) :D ;D
 
Stainzmeister said:
[size=14pt]Call me old fashioned but what happened to honesty and integrity ?[/size]
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I am not saying i condone it but if you read the user forums on Ebay its often a subject hotly debated Ebay will act if enough people complain about a single seller
 
Tony said:
Indeed they can but why would they stop it as it makes the item sell for more vis a vis more fees paid
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Exactly, eBay is there to MAKE MONEY. Ebay per se don't seem too bothered by the shenanigans that goes on but PayPal on the other hand are very quick to act, even on frivolous complaints. I have tested Paypal to destruction eg I wanted some axial lead .01uF capacitors, found some on Ebay bought them (99 cents for 50, free post) and they arrived but instead of being the ochre colour as displayed in the pic they were deep brown. I made a case to paypal declaring the items were not the same colour as advertised, Paypal upheld my claim. Ok so what does this prove? NO ONE AT ANY TIME ASKED IF THE CAPS WERE THE SAME VALUE AS I PURCHASED!!! Dunno anyway I assured the seller that there was absolutely nothing wrong with the caps and sent him an extra $1 for putting up with my stupidity.....

So yeah sellers who are cheats can be dealt with but you have to remember that they have to put up with a lot of hubris from non thinking thumb up bum brain in neutral buyers. Its like buying or selling anywhere you have to know what you want, you have to know the prices and Caveat emptor. As for honesty and integrity yeah well, like "common sense" those traits seem to have long since disappeared.... As Captain Smith said " Well men you have done your duty, now its every man for himself" then again maybe I have too much time on my hands...
 
tramcar trev said:
I made a case to paypal declaring the items were not the same colour as advertised, Paypal upheld my claim. Ok so what does this prove?
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I wish I had your tip a couple of years ago when I purchaced clearly listed and photographed AMS 1:20.3 D&RGW boxcar with the "Mofatt Herald" from a US seller for £90 inc postage. The one with the "flying Rio Grande" logo was the one that arrived. The guy flatly refused to fix the problem without me paying repatriation costs, £40 from the UK, even though it was his fault he'd picked the wrong stock. Even accused me of blackmailing him when I suggested, tounge in cheek, a 10% discount for the hassle he had caused me. Tried to fix through Ebay, not a dickie bird.
Max.
 
I have had mixed results with trying to sort out problem purchases on ebay if a seller does not want to cooperate. Sometimes, after going through the 'resolution process' they seem to understand and sort it but on others they just seem to make an arbitary decision...but, I have to say it is usually in the buyer's favour.

BUT as a seller I have seen the enormous bias towards buyers that ebay has.

Example...
A person bought an OO gauge wrenn loco from me for about £250 (a good value price for that particular loco).
It was in excellent working condition with no damage at all.
I wrapped it really well so it would arrive in good nick unless an elephant danced the Tango on it.
Off it went and it was duly received.
The buyer contacted me saying that a pony truck was broken (incredibly unlikely).
I immediately apologised and asked him to return it for a full refund including postage both ways. OR to send me photos of the packaging etc so that I could make a claim from Royal Mail.
BUT he said that he would not return it as he never returned anything and wanted it (the good price he got it for was obviously the clincher), but he wanted a 50% refund!
I replied that I was happy to refund the whole amount on receipt of the return of the item but not to give a 50% refund but maybe 15%..he didn't like that ....etc etc
It was then that I went to the resolution process.
They said that I was doing everything correctly and that to follow the system through.

Meanwhile he gave me bad feedback with defamatory remarks
After following the resolution process, finally ebay said that I could keep the payment and that he could have a total refund and also keep the loco!! What a deal he got!
BUT they would not remove the bad feedback and said that it was a 50-50 case even though I had followed everything that I should have done and had been told by them that I was in the right.

The pony truck was probably not broken and the buyer got the benefit of ebay's policy ..the buyer is always correct.
 
I had a similar thing happen. I sold a pair of ceramic kookaburras that were in mint condition and packed extremely well and very valuable. I also had them insured.... To cut to the chase the buyer contacted me and said they they were smashed on arrival, refused to provide ME with any photographic evidence and demanded a full refund. I also said no worries but I want proof of the damage. None ever came and the dispute was resolved to the buyers favour. Not only that the buyer double dipped, got a refund from Paypal then I got a notice from Australia post requesting my signature on an insurance claim the buyer had made for 3 times what she paid. I was able to have the claim amount reduced to the purchase price. Australia post wanted me to provide proof that the goods were satisfactorily packed and all I could do was sign a statement. Australia post did not care that the buyer had already been refunded but they only refunded her the purchase price.
I spat the dummy, eBay were not interested so I closed that account which was not easy...
Then I get a constant barrage of emails asking me to fill out surveys as to why I left and what could they do to tempt me back, I explained it all again and nothing was done. I lost the my funds and the items, the buyer scored the items and an amount equal to 2 purchase prices...
Two words CAVEAT EMPTOR, Ummm no it should be "Seller beware".... But to be fair in all the years I have been using eBay that is the only time I have been screwed over.
 
It amazes me to think how much time and effort these people go to scew people over for what is really such a trifling amount of money (I'll wait for the brickbats on that one gents). They must operate like a highly organised business to make it pay ;) That or have a bit of a "boarderline personality disorder". Bring back seller's feedback rating. Oh what the heck, bring back hanging or a bit of Islamic justice (oops that's torn it)
Max.
 
maxi-model said:
It amazes me to think how much time and effort these people go to scew people over for what is really such a trifling amount of money (I'll wait for the brickbats on that one gents). They must operate like a highly organised business to make it pay ;) That or have a bit of a "boarderline personality disorder". Bring back seller's feedback rating. Oh what the heck, bring back hanging or a bit of Islamic justice (oops that's torn it)
Max.
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I dunno Max but I think you're right on the money, so to speak. In my case it was several hundred $$$$ but to go to extremes over a $1 or $2 seems hardly worth it. There are some people who make a game out of it and buy stuff that they claim they never receive, insist on a refund then sell the stuff they say they never got. I always pay to get a signature on delivery, its just not worth the hassle of having to deal with these people, it means virtually nothing goes missing in the post....

Borderline personality believe it or not is rampant among the "high flyers" and I don't mean aero modellers, Islamic Justice??? Max its terribly hard to stone an infidel via Paypal....
 
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