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So, two questions on track:

1) Is LGB stock compatible with Peco G-45 track, as I understand it has a lower profile then LGB/standard G scale track
2) Is there any manufacturer out there that does good looking 45mm track with wooden sleepers?
 
SpudUk said:
So, two questions on track:

1) Is LGB stock compatible with Peco G-45 track, as I understand it has a lower profile then LGB/standard G scale track
2) Is there any manufacturer out there that does good looking 45mm track with wooden sleepers?
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1) I think you might have problems with flange depth at some locations - I believe it is generally OK on normal track, but can give problems on point frogs....?

2) GRS (Garden railway Specialists) do lovely hand-made pointwork with wooden sleepers and (I think) a choice of code 250 or code 332 rail; not 100% sure if they do normal straights and curves or just the fancy stuff.
I also saw a chap at one of last year's shows (possibly the 16mm show) offering hand-made track, very nice but pricey, thought I had kept his business card just in case but can't find it right now. I'm sure someone else will jump in with the details!

Jon.
 
I got my track (with wooden sleepers) from GRS. It was hand-built, but I wanted dual gauge 32/45mm, so at least I had an excuse, and my layout isn´t that huge. There are probably people out there who can help you if you want to build your own - but perhaps getting the points from a reliable source isn´t such a bad idea.
 
3.0.1 models is the chap who does the wood sleepered handmade trackwork. Makes in all rail profiles including LGB code 332. Does not have a website but is listed as an exhibitor at the 16mm NGM show this year. Try them for his contact details. Or go up there in person. Warley model club should have his details on file too as he has exhibited with them regularly at he NEC show. GRS stuff is great, I have a few of their 6ft points, Y's , crossings and double slips. All code 332. They and 3.0.1 don't list wood sleepered flexi or "settrack" but you could always ask Matt at GRS. Likes to make a sale Matt does.

Only problem with wooden stuff, you need good drainage and will have to croesote it all athe start of each year. OK if it is the odd bit but a whole layout.........One of the forum members here I know has a wood sleepered track. All hand pinned rails to wood sleepers. hate to think how long it took to make. It is all raised 3ft above ground and is dual gauge 64/45 mm. Bit of a "racetrack" as he mainly runs standard gauge prototypes.

Stangely you are most likely to get all wooden track systems in 45mm gauge from the US. They have the right climate in some parts and 45mm is very much "native" for both NG and standard gauge. they also have a lot of termites though :D

Max.
 
I think your most likely place for problems would be point cross-overs and check-rails. Peco G-45 is code 250, so is still reasonably tall. Certainly code 200 would I think give chair problems with LGB flanges.
 
The only reason I ask is I'm just looking for 45mm track that is both compatible with LGB but looks a lot less "chunky" and slightly out of scale...visually I mean
 
I´d go for 250 personally, but it´s a question of personal taste. Do be aware that one of the great advantages of using standard track is that you can spontaneously try things out (if you have it to hand), whereas if you are hand-building then everything is in the planning ??? When I was starting out, I used the cheapest that I could find ;)
 
SpudUk said:
The only reason I ask is I'm just looking for 45mm track that is both compatible with LGB but looks a lot less "chunky" and slightly out of scale...visually I mean
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Like this ? http://www.modell-werkstatt.de/gleissystem/gleise/index.html ;D
 
The big advantage of the LGB-type code 332 rail is that it is (almost) indestructible!
you can walk on it, 'grind' (clean) it down for years, and years, and it will still work.. Many of us have track that has had several owners, and is probably 15 - 20 years old.

Do not go 'finescale'.. costs a fortune, and will cut-through the plating on the wheel-sets in no time at all.
Wooden sleepered track does look very nice, but will cost a fortune, and require much maintenance.
 
PhilP said:
The big advantage of the LGB-type code 332 rail is that it is (almost) indestructible!
you can walk on it, 'grind' (clean) it down for years, and years, and it will still work.. Many of us have track that has had several owners, and is probably 15 - 20 years old.
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Only if it is firmly mounted to a paving slab or similar. Accidently slipped and missed my footing and planted one of my size tens on a "floating" 1.5m length of LGB flexi-track, laid straight on balast. Devils own to straighten out through my "rail bender". Still had a slight kink in the mid point of one rail. Chopped 3cm out of both rails and put in a rail clamp to fix one side. So I suppose almost indestuctible still applies ;)
Max
 
maxi-model said:
3.0.1 models is the chap who does the wood sleepered handmade trackwork. Makes in all rail profiles including LGB code 332. ......
Max.
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Yep, that's the chap I was remembering.....

In fact, just had another look and found his card!

His name is Robin Saxton, he's in Winchmore Hill in London; phone no. is 0208 360 5760 and email address is <saxton@three01.freeserve.co.uk>.

Hope that helps?

Jon.

Jon.
 
Zerogee said:
Ah, good old Herr Bertram Heyn, he of the amazing hat..... ;)
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Well it's sleepers Jon. But not as we know it. Nice one on the card shuffling too. I'm off at warp factor 5 now.
Max.
 
I have run a variety of g stock on peco g45 track. The chair clearance has never been a problem. Pick up skates do short on the frogs. When travelling at a reasonable speed this is not a problem. At slow speeds it does cause stalling. I just painted the top of the track by the frog every so often which solved the problem. Others have used nail varnish.
 
Peco and LGB can be compatible. I use both on my line and have done for years, preferring to use the Guarantee of exact curves rather than bending Flex Track. Peco make a Fishplate that joins LGB to Peco quite happily. It is Plastic but does have a metal insert for Electrical Conductivity. I use this extensively but also prefer to Bond Such Joints as well.

I also has a very old LGB Loco with Deep. flanges. This was never a problem on Peco G45 Track. However id did have a bumpy ride on 10mm Gauge 1 Track that my friend uses.

Hope this helps.
JonD
 
SpudUk said:
The only reason I ask is I'm just looking for 45mm track that is both compatible with LGB but looks a lot less "chunky" and slightly out of scale...visually I mean
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Have you had a look at Tenmille Spud....

http://www.tenmille.com/GScaleTrack.html
 
I use peco code 200 track and points, both fleci track and build your own rail type. I have the track inside on boards and will be using it outside. Its typical narrow gauge track. I have 8 bachmann locos which I run on there and none from a goose to a baldwin 2 6 6 2 have any problems on this track and it looks great. The main thing is to lay any track properly
graham
 
How does the old song go? I've looked at life from both sides now, I really don't know clowns at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
:o Whilst code 250 looks nice, and is closer to scale, experience has shown, at least here in New Zealand, that it can't really hack the pace.
 
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