Today on the WGLR
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Mel - lovely - are you going to bury the track in a level crossing?
jameshilton
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Mel - lovely - are you going to bury the track in a level crossing?
The addition of the standard gauge interchange siding has allowed the track around Gooey station to be ballasted. This was done with a mix (5-2-1) of ballast (6mm grit), sand and cement. This was done to give the sidings etc. an overgrown look rather than just ballast as on the running lines. As this corner of the garden is very shaded and damp, I'm confident that this will get a nice covering of moss over the next 12 months or so.
Overall views of Gooey with narrow gauge stock in platforms 1 & 2 and a standard gauge wagon waiting to be shunted into the interchange.
A pretty fuzzy view of the interchange siding taken from the platform.
A standard gauge wagon alongside a narrow gauge private owner wagon (Cockshutt Coal & Coke) in the interchange siding.
A small area has yet to be ballasted. This awaits for another small planned project. This is a secret between me and the present Mrs YB .................... oh, and Stockers ................ D'OH!!!!!
Overall views of Gooey with narrow gauge stock in platforms 1 & 2 and a standard gauge wagon waiting to be shunted into the interchange.
A pretty fuzzy view of the interchange siding taken from the platform.
A standard gauge wagon alongside a narrow gauge private owner wagon (Cockshutt Coal & Coke) in the interchange siding.
A small area has yet to be ballasted. This awaits for another small planned project. This is a secret between me and the present Mrs YB .................... oh, and Stockers ................ D'OH!!!!!
Mel im having a real problem with this scale stuff !!!!!!! Not your railway but this whole 45mm thing and the people
I know how it works (scale) and i see what you have done BR mainline etc next to a narrow gauge line and it looks great the weathering is spot on.
Shout me down and call me a pratt but are LGB, Bachmann etc people too small for the real world, i say this because ive started making people for my railway and compared to LGB etc im having to make them bigger the reason i think is in your pictures. its as if LGB etc make narrow gauge locos and wagons but then make people that would be the right size if it was running on standard gauge,
does that make sence
Take your guy standing on the hard standing he looks right for the narrow gauge wagon but too small for your new one.
This makes my brain hurt
Tony
I know how it works (scale) and i see what you have done BR mainline etc next to a narrow gauge line and it looks great the weathering is spot on.
Shout me down and call me a pratt but are LGB, Bachmann etc people too small for the real world, i say this because ive started making people for my railway and compared to LGB etc im having to make them bigger the reason i think is in your pictures. its as if LGB etc make narrow gauge locos and wagons but then make people that would be the right size if it was running on standard gauge,
does that make sence
Take your guy standing on the hard standing he looks right for the narrow gauge wagon but too small for your new one.
This makes my brain hurt
Tony
It does get a bit fuzzy talking about scale in relation to G scale Tony, mostly because G is a gauge rather than a scale. This becomes particularly tricky when the (mostly American) manufacturers sell models a G scale when they range from 1/32nd to !/20th. In scale terms, that's a massive difference.
As far as LGB is concerned, their models are based around 1/22.5 scale ( I say "based" because they do use a rubber ruler occasionaly) and so are their figures. Prieser and Bachmann Scenecraft also make their people to 1/22.5. I can't comment on the American Bachmann figures because I'm afraid I hate them, especially their train drivers - the ones that seem to have Plasticine arms and no elbows :'(
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Anyhoo, as far as the WGLR is concerned, I'm not too fussy about scale, but I do try to stick to between 1/22.5 and 1/24. Certainly as far as people are concerned, this just reflects the natural difference between heights (like Mike and Fred ). The long and short of it is ( ) that the little bloke in the photo is to scale to BOTH the narrow gauge and standard gauge wagons (within a smidge or two). Go and visit a standard gauge preserved railway and see where the top of your head is in comparison to a wagon.
Hope this helps - or does it just make it worse?
Of course, I didn't mention that I've got some 1/19th W&L stock too
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As far as LGB is concerned, their models are based around 1/22.5 scale ( I say "based" because they do use a rubber ruler occasionaly) and so are their figures. Prieser and Bachmann Scenecraft also make their people to 1/22.5. I can't comment on the American Bachmann figures because I'm afraid I hate them, especially their train drivers - the ones that seem to have Plasticine arms and no elbows :'(
.Anyhoo, as far as the WGLR is concerned, I'm not too fussy about scale, but I do try to stick to between 1/22.5 and 1/24. Certainly as far as people are concerned, this just reflects the natural difference between heights (like Mike and Fred
). The long and short of it is ( ) that the little bloke in the photo is to scale to BOTH the narrow gauge and standard gauge wagons (within a smidge or two). Go and visit a standard gauge preserved railway and see where the top of your head is in comparison to a wagon.Hope this helps - or does it just make it worse?
Of course, I didn't mention that I've got some 1/19th W&L stock too
.Mel ive tried to take some pics to show what like im saying
The people involved in this tale are SGT Major Grubbins .(mine)........ Bachmann driver........ Schilk with shovel....... Unpainted "Bert" with flag (mine) and a wheel checker (mine), the wagons are Bachmann.... Kit built narrow gauge.... a Bachmann box car . and a Bachmann Shay.
The driver and the shovel are clearly to small when used as narrow gauge which is why i felt the need to make all mine slightly bigger because although i have an Aristo Mallet etc which are using 45mm track as standard gauge my love like you is Narrow gauge and it seems the people are too small. Yes they are slightly to big for the box car but rule 8 etc. i think they look better with the Shay though even if its a squezze to get them in
The people involved in this tale are SGT Major Grubbins .(mine)........ Bachmann driver........ Schilk with shovel....... Unpainted "Bert" with flag (mine) and a wheel checker (mine), the wagons are Bachmann.... Kit built narrow gauge.... a Bachmann box car . and a Bachmann Shay.
The driver and the shovel are clearly to small when used as narrow gauge which is why i felt the need to make all mine slightly bigger because although i have an Aristo Mallet etc which are using 45mm track as standard gauge my love like you is Narrow gauge and it seems the people are too small. Yes they are slightly to big for the box car but rule 8 etc. i think they look better with the Shay though even if its a squezze to get them in
Well I think the bloke with the shovel is a Schleich figure? They actually tend to be on the big side at around the 1/20th mark. I suppose it's all in the eye of the beholder.
What scale is the Shay?
One other thing about standard gauge (British at least - I'm afraid I know nothing about US stuff). If you approach a BR MK1 coach and you are standing in the cess at the side of the track, the bottom of the doors is about 6' above the ground (depending on the depth of ballast). We often used to have to practice using our ladders to gain access to coaches on the SVR in case of emergencies.
What scale is the Shay?
One other thing about standard gauge (British at least - I'm afraid I know nothing about US stuff). If you approach a BR MK1 coach and you are standing in the cess at the side of the track, the bottom of the doors is about 6' above the ground (depending on the depth of ballast). We often used to have to practice using our ladders to gain access to coaches on the SVR in case of emergencies.
No.1 on today's job list was to get the walls that line one side of Church Street cemented into place together with the lych gate for St. Marks - you might have noticed that the actual gates are now fitted.
When the cement has dried I can finally start laying the actual road surface.
When the cement has dried I can finally start laying the actual road surface.
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Wow this really is building a minature landscape - it's like indoor modelling outside Mel. Lovely, full of atmosphere. The EJ&KLR will be much more about trains in the landscape with a heavily 'wooded' line I expect 
Lots of inspiration here Mel - I love what you've done with the line and how it's developed from the early days! Just screaming out for an electric Accurcraft Countess!
Lots of inspiration here Mel - I love what you've done with the line and how it's developed from the early days! Just screaming out for an electric Accurcraft Countess!Cheers James. Mmmm Accucraft Countess - now there's an ideajameshilton said:Wow this really is building a minature landscape - it's like indoor modelling outside Mel. Lovely, full of atmosphere. The EJ&KLR will be much more about trains in the landscape with a heavily 'wooded' line I expect
Absolutely beautiful day today. A couple of visitors came to call and plenty of trains were running.
Hank the Yank (ex WD 0-4-0T) on the pick up goods.
No.2 waits simmering in the sun outside the engineering works.
No.1 awaits departure from Gooey ................
............ and then pulls away past the interchange siding. Looks as if someone has a lot of shovelling to do?
The goods yard seems to have been taken over by the per way dept., maybe ready for a track possession on Sunday night?
Hank the Yank (ex WD 0-4-0T) on the pick up goods.
No.2 waits simmering in the sun outside the engineering works.
No.1 awaits departure from Gooey ................
............ and then pulls away past the interchange siding. Looks as if someone has a lot of shovelling to do?
The goods yard seems to have been taken over by the per way dept., maybe ready for a track possession on Sunday night?
Our garden railway chums Tony and Jean came over yesterday and brought with them half a bag of tarmac - not sure what the neighbours would have thought of that as a present?
Anyhoo, it was ideal for me as this was required for the surfacing of Church Street. It's the cold lay stuff that is sold for patching driveways etc. Tony has used it for years on his railway and it's survived many harsh Winters. Same goes for Elliott too, the recent bad Winter doesn't appear to have done it any harm. This bag has been sitting in Tony's shed for a while and was one big, rock hard lump - not to worry though, a couple of kettles of boiling water over it and it had returned to it's lovely gooeyness .......... appropriate.
You just shovel it into place and tamp it down with various off-cuts of wood whacked with Mr Lump. Et, voila...
The road surface is a bit rough and over scale for 1/22nd, so I might brush in some well sifted ballast dust after it's had a day or so to go off. I think it already looks better than the Corex board that I used for roadways on WGLR Mk1. I've still got to in-fill the track at the level crossing, but I've got another plan for that.
edit - BTW, the site of the old factory (bottom right in the second pic) is soon to become a cattle market.
Anyhoo, it was ideal for me as this was required for the surfacing of Church Street. It's the cold lay stuff that is sold for patching driveways etc. Tony has used it for years on his railway and it's survived many harsh Winters. Same goes for Elliott too, the recent bad Winter doesn't appear to have done it any harm. This bag has been sitting in Tony's shed for a while and was one big, rock hard lump - not to worry though, a couple of kettles of boiling water over it and it had returned to it's lovely gooeyness .......... appropriate
. You just shovel it into place and tamp it down with various off-cuts of wood whacked with Mr Lump. Et, voila...
The road surface is a bit rough and over scale for 1/22nd, so I might brush in some well sifted ballast dust after it's had a day or so to go off. I think it already looks better than the Corex board that I used for roadways on WGLR Mk1. I've still got to in-fill the track at the level crossing, but I've got another plan for that.
edit - BTW, the site of the old factory (bottom right in the second pic) is soon to become a cattle market
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