Roundhouse Taliesin chuff pipe and whistle

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I am looking at ordering a Roundhouse Taliesin and am keen to install both a chuff pipe and a whistle. Does anyone know if both are feasible on this loco and what are the best options?

Thanks
Peter Lucas
MyLocoSound
 
Yes, both are possible. Providing the loco is fitted with the new 'Z' type exhaust (which will have to be sent for modification by Nigel at DP Suppliers (the chap who makes the chuffer). Quote Summerlands chuffers website "Taliesin
Late batches only with the Z shaped exhaust - not the L shaped exhaust (which cannot be modified). Your Z exhaust needs to be sent to D P Supplies for modification."

A whistle from DJB engineering can be fitted but he has just suspended production for 6 months, not sure what?s going but hope everything?s ok.

I have fitted both a chuffer and a whistle to my Silver Lady and they are great extras.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wTI-7cEXDc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0egGkKv3bwI
 
Are they worth the bother though? The chuffer only sounds good at very low speed.
The whistle on that Silver Lady ought to be a lot better than it is. Can you tweak the whistle so that it actually whistles as good as the others or is that a duff whistle?
 
I like my chuffer, much better.
I guess if you run your trains at full speed then a realistic sound ain't gonna be a priority.

I want a whistle for my ragleth, whistles are cool.
 
vasim said:
Are they worth the bother though? The chuffer only sounds good at very low speed.
The whistle on that Silver Lady ought to be a lot better than it is. Can you tweak the whistle so that it actually whistles as good as the others or is that a duff whistle?
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I agree, the whistle on the Silver Lady in that video is not working very well as I was running with low pressure for more slow, realistic speeds for the chuffer. It's a case of one or the other. I personally find that around 35PSI the whistle sounds much better but then you have less control over the slower speeds. It's a case of trying to get the balance right.
EDIT: Possibly a better example of the whistle in use throughout this video....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1SoDRk6wek
 
Hi Peter
Here is a video by phil Sixmith of the first one we did for the Taliesin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_iW...heers Chris www.summerlands-chuffer.co.uk
 
Chris,

I am in Australia so it would be difficult to use one of your chuff fitters. Is it something I could do myself? I have scratch built a couple of live steam locos using Roundhouse components and have access to a small workshop. If so, do you publish instructions?

Scott,

I am used to the whistle on my Cheddar Hercules which is a strong high pitch and found your Lady Anne whistle a little disappointing. Are there other brands of whistle around?

Regards
Peter
MylocoSound
 
Moonraker said:
I am in Australia so it would be difficult to use one of your chuff fitters. Is it something I could do myself? I have scratch built a couple of live steam locos using Roundhouse components and have access to a small workshop. If so, do you publish instructions?
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Hi Peter
If you are able to silver solder, then you can fit the SCRH4 Chuffer to your own Z exhaust. It is a special shorter version which fits on to the exhaust just above the forward bend so that the entire chuffer is inside the chimney. The exhaust needs to be cut for this.

If you have the earlier L shaped exhaust, it is possible to modify it, but as I have not done it I am unable to publish instructions. I do know that on these early locos, the exhaust rises from a fitting under the power unit and then bends forward at 90 degrees. An L shaped exhaust just pushes on to this from the front and rocks as the bogie moves. You would need to modify this so that the exhaust ends in the vertical (no bend) and then fabricate a Z exhaust that will push down on to the exhaust and swivel in the chimney. Roundhouse may be able to supply the parts.

Regarding whistles, I know that Regner do one, but it is probably smaller and higher pitched than the Cheddar one.

Cheers
Chris
 
Moonraker said:
Chris,

I am in Australia so it would be difficult to use one of your chuff fitters. Is it something I could do myself? I have scratch built a couple of live steam locos using Roundhouse components and have access to a small workshop. If so, do you publish instructions?

Scott,

I am used to the whistle on my Cheddar Hercules which is a strong high pitch and found your Lady Anne whistle a little disappointing. Are there other brands of whistle around?

Regards
Peter
MylocoSound
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As MayFlower rightly says, Regner do whistles however you will need to do some modifications to it to make it fit I believe. They are compatible with the Accucraft countess but from what I've heard from friends who are trying to fit to a Lyn and a roundhouse Carrie you need to locate a 'T' Piece with the correct thread. They are also quite high pitched from what I've seen and heard at shows...
http://www.strikalite.co.uk/prodcat...mm\G-scale_Regner_live_steam_locomotives.html

I have to say that I don't think the whistle on my Silver Lady is the best and agree that the one on the Katie is much better. I am thinking about playing around with it to see if the pitch can be changed. However for what I do - Running trains for the public every weekend for people to enjoy, everyone likes to see a real steam trains and if the kids watching hear something the resembles a whistle then it brings a smile to their faces! I think it's alright with high pressure but again I have plenty of time to play around with it, all part of the fun in my eyes....:D
 
I have been listening to the prototype on Youtube and the DJB sounds a bit closer than the Regner. However, on checking the DJB site, I see that they have ceased manufacture of the whistles for six months.

Looks like I will need to continue research and maybe try and make one myself.

In the meantime, I will get on with the Summerlands chuffer.

Thanks to all
Peter
 
My Taliesin is now in the air on its way to Australia so it's too late to think about fitting a whistle in Britain. I think I will concentrate on detailing the paintwork, lining it and fitting a Summerlands chuffer first. Later in the year, I will take it over to the Great Southern SteamUp in Emerald, Victoria and have a chat with Gordon Watson about the whistle options.

Thanks for the inputs
Peter Lucas
MyLocoSound
 
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