RAILMOTOR No. 4

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Model boats, trains and gliders.
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In January 2001, the chance viewing of a TV news item about a Model T Ford on rails prompted some phone calls to determine its where-abouts and operating times. A slight detour on our way south for our Christmas holiday enabled photographs and basic measurements to be taken of this cute replica.
It is made to a scale of 1:24, to suit the NZR gauge of 3?-6?.
The wheels were made as follows: I cut out two brass disks each 2.5mm thick to the rough diameter of the rim and flange. This was done by hacksaw and disk sander, rotating the blanks about a nail through a 1/8th inch hole. These two disks were then soft soldered together and onto a piece of hex brass with a 1/8th inch hole and a length of brazing rod down its centre. The hex brass stub was held in my Unimat 3 chuck. A lot of very careful turning/measuring produced my first wheel. After drilling a centre hole for the axle, and having removed it from the chuck, careful application of heat separated the new wheel from the stub! The other three got easier as they were done.
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Brass wheel bits. Two roughed rounds, hexagonal chucking piece and finished wheel.

To achieve the necessary electrical insulation between the wheels, I turned plastic bushes/sleeves to go inside one wheel centre on each axle. The body generally was made from brass sheet and brass rod. I found these easy to work with and to soft solder together. The window framing is from suitable sized wood strips. The roof is cut out of polystyrene, filed/sanded and covered with fabric using PVA glue. The radiator is wood, with fine brass mesh for the core. The bonnet vents are simulated by lengths of copper wire passing through holes at the top and bottom, with filler fillets along their front edges. The wheel ?tires?, hubcaps, door handles and radiator cap were chrome plated.

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Early stage, no mudguards or steps yet.

Motive power is provided by a cheap 3-4.5v electric motor connected to the rear axle via a worm gear and pinion reduction of 15 to 1. The gears came out of an old electric eggbeater, with some re-bushing etc.
I chose to make it battery powered. This also allows it to be independently and automatically controlled in a forward/reverse cycle.
To do this a reed switch is mounted under the back axle and operated by magnets on the track to initiate the changes of direction. A 9volt battery powers a control circuit triggered by the reed switch. The model stops for 12 seconds, then starts again in the reverse direction. There is another delay (4 secs) incorporated to ignore the magnet most recently passed over. Two miniature relays switch the 3-volt (2 x AA batteries), supply to the motor. When initially switched on, there is a 12 second delay before starting forwards.

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2 x AA batteries, 1 x 9v battery, and Vero circuit board.

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Worm and pinion gears, read switch in rubber sleeve, ON/OFF switch and one of the relays.

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Magnet under front axle. (see future thread for its purpose)

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My model on the steps of the prototype, and an N or Z? scale model on top of mine.

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Schematic diagram of control board.

The model has a scale speed of about 50kph, and it runs for hours on one set of batteries. The model was very suited to my ?there and back? garden railway line, with one magnet situated at each end of the track.
The main problem was that the real thing did not travel long distances in reverse like mine did.:(
 
Nice modelling! Inspirational and informative narrative too. Thanks for giving us the opportunity to view your superb model.
 
Am I allowed to say Bluddy Brilliant mate? Would the magnet have anything to do with signalling? like closeing reed switches?
Exceptional work!!!!!!!!!!
 
Thanks Dean
Really inspirational. I wish my scratch-building skills were half as developed as yours. I'm in the process of bashing a couple of Ashover coach kits into something resembling a pair of railmotors coupled back to back to overcome the need for a turntable. Like you, I am intending to have them battery powered but will include a station-stop delay circuit, rather than a shuttle so I can run them round my main circuit with stops at the three through stations. I was also intending to include a parcels van for the batteries. I'll also run them end-to-end during full operating sessions, though, so may have to include some sort of remote / radio control. I may 'borrow' some key fob ideas from Greg's website.

After seeing your model, I fear mine will be nowhere near as impressive - thanks for the detail, I'll probably pinch a few ideas if that's OK.

Rik
 
tramcar trev said:
Would the magnet have anything to do with signalling? like closeing reed switches?

You are very 'warm', I am working on a follow up in which all will be revealed.
 
themole said:
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A very nice model, :thumbup: here's a picture of the real one. Alyn
Never pass roadworthy... No blinkers
 
I am so envious of your skills. Even getting gears to mesh is almost beyond me, but you can do everything. Keep up the postings to share your great work.
Ever thought of using Picaxe to do your controls?
 
gregh said:
Ever thought of using Picaxe to do your controls?
Interesting that you should say that. I had a friend around only today who suggested a
similar thing. It would be a relatively easy way of achieving a variable speed for start/stop,
which is very much lacking at present. I must investigate further.
 
gregh said:
I am so envious of your skills. Even getting gears to mesh is almost beyond me, but you can do everything.

Ditto

gregh said:
Keep up the postings to share your great work.

Ditto

gregh said:
Ever thought of using Picaxe to do your controls?

Just checked out their website. Looks really interesting. Presumably the Picaxe system could be triggered by radio signals as well as reed switches to have a range of control options.

Rik
 
ge_rik said:
Just checked out their website. Looks really interesting. Presumably the Picaxe system could be triggered by radio signals as well as reed switches to have a range of control options.
I am a big fan of Picaxes. I've only ever used the smallest model 08M, sometimes need 2, to let me do 'two things at once'.
It takes a bit of work to 'get into them' in the first place - you have to buy a development kit (or whatever it's called) to program it from your computer, then learn the mini Basic language they use, but it's worth it! Can do PWM speed control or servo control or time delays sooo simply. Many RC systems use 5V, the same as Picaxe, so interfacing is a piece of cake.
Besides motor control with RC, I use them for steam and diesel sounds.
Some people allow for them to be programmed in-situ in a loco, but for that you need a laptop. I just mount all mine in sockets and take them in and out for programming.

My website has a few 'introductory' articles on my uses, but not much detail.

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/satr/electronics.htm#RC
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/satr/2point4GHz.htm#picaxeESC
 
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