Pointy Nosed or Streamlined Trains and Locomotives

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Yesterday's Picture by Hal Farsted (John) of the Gas Turnpbine APT somewhere in the Midlands I would assume prompted me to dig out my pictures of the beast taken when it was on a trip on the East Coast Main Line as we called it back in the 1970's. Cannot remember now if it was another Test Run or entering York Museum for Preservation. I believe it to be at Shildon just now. Pics taken direct from my iPad so there is some reflection in them.

They are fairly significant in showing a different York from today with Older DMU's, Station Pilots, Through Roads between what was then Plats 8/9 and of course no Juice Wires. The Mk1 Stock in the Sidings in the first Pic can of course still be seen with Specials on occasion.

Be nice to see some more pictures on similar themes. Also good excuse to Post Pics of your LGB ICE's in nice Scenic Settings.
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I came upon this last week and meant to post it under it's own heading, but I believe it fits here. It's somewhat different from the shovel nosed trains we are used to seeing. I, personally love the design. It harkens back to the Art Deco period and all of the fantastic railway designs that came out of some well known industrial designers of the day.

 
hmmm... not sure about the styling of that one. For some reason the first thing it made me think of was

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Madman said:
I came upon this last week and meant to post it under it's own heading, but I believe it fits here. It's somewhat different from the shovel nosed trains we are used to seeing. I, personally love the design. It harkens back to the Art Deco period and all of the fantastic railway designs that came out of some well known industrial designers of the day.

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Thanks for posting Dan, it definitely borrows its styling from those 1930s New York Central Hudsons. Although the Star Wars version is looks suitably like old Darth's headgear.

It's also nice to be reminded that, Shinkansen's aside, all other Japanese trains are running on 3'6" gauge track.
 
Madman said:
I came upon this last week and meant to post it under it's own heading, but I believe it fits here. It's somewhat different from the shovel nosed trains we are used to seeing. I, personally love the design. It harkens back to the Art Deco period and all of the fantastic railway designs that came out of some well known industrial designers of the day.

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......and the porthole windows :clap::clap::clap:
 
and they managed to get the windows in line with the seats - clever that!
 
Madman said:
I came upon this last week and meant to post it under it's own heading, but I believe it fits here. It's somewhat different from the shovel nosed trains we are used to seeing. I, personally love the design. It harkens back to the Art Deco period and all of the fantastic railway designs that came out of some well known industrial designers of the day.

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Nice selection of liveries - so it's not just a 'Flash' in the pan (me misquoting PhilP's post!). What I find interesting is the construction of the 'skin' - so smooth and not showing the usual sheet stress areas associated with fixing to framing.
 
trammayo said:
Nice selection of liveries - so it's not just a 'Flash' in the pan (me misquoting PhilP's post!). What I find interesting is the construction of the 'skin' - so smooth and not showing the usual sheet stress areas associated with fixing to framing.
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Possibly pre-stressed a little?
Maybe glued, rather than riveted?
 
trammayo said:
Nice selection of liveries - so it's not just a 'Flash' in the pan (me misquoting PhilP's post!). What I find interesting is the construction of the 'skin' - so smooth and not showing the usual sheet stress areas associated with fixing to framing.
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Yes, I noticed that also. The other thing that struck me about the design is that the nose doesn't look like the designer just stuck a Buck Rogers helmet on some existing equipment. So your statement about the smoothness comes into play here. The entire design flows beautifully.
 
My only knowledge of the techniques for making a monocoque is the class 52 Western diesels. As I understand it they tackwelded pre cut sheets of prewarmed steel onto a lightweight frame in a specific order. When the sheets cooled the inherent strength of the frame was set by the box formed of the steel sheeting. This was then fully welded to finish. The locomotive was then covered in a material called "prestolith" which I am told is like an old fashioned version of P38 carbody filler. this was sanded down and painted for a wrinkle free body. Of course, as the seven locos that survive are over 50 years old, some of the prestolith has broken down allowing water behind it.........not good. But now there is P38.....good. :cool:
 
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