Playmobil traction tyres

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I bought a couple of years ago a Playmobil 5258 trainset. The loc has lost its traction tyres and I have been trying to order spare ones (art. 7231) but they seem to be no longer available.
Is there a reference I could buy from LGB or any other company to fix the problem?
 
You can get them from Playmobil's spare parts department with the part number rather than the item/set number. You are in Belgium? I think I have linked the Playmobil Belgium links below:

This is the newer version associated with RC trains, which is less expensive:
30889490
This is the older version associated with electric trains which is a bit more expensive:
30803460

Having tried both kinds, I do not see a difference between them other than price and part number. Maybe the materials are different?

You can search for part numbers at playmodb.org
 
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railaddict said:
I bought a couple of years ago a Playmobil 5258 trainset. The loc has lost its traction tyres and I have been trying to order spare ones (art. 7231) but they seem to be no longer available.
Is there a reference I could buy from LGB or any other company to fix the problem?
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On the UK Playmobil site the traction tires are shown as available as part 30889490 at 25p. On the Belgian site they are also shown as available at 0.40 euro.
 
Thanks very much! I could not find the partnumber and did not know they had changed it. The difference between the two references, except for the price, could be the hardness of the rubber used, because one says 80° shore and the other no reference to the hardness. Anyway I know now how to obtain them.
 
railaddict said:
Thanks very much! I could not find the partnumber and did not know they had changed it. The difference between the two references, except for the price, could be the hardness of the rubber used, because one says 80° shore and the other no reference to the hardness. Anyway I know now how to obtain them.
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The part number is taken from the instructions for the 4010 train set rather than using the Direct Service part number. The item will be the same whichever site it is bought from; I think I have heard that prices on the Belgian site are higher than on the German site, which is the case here, as the tire on the German site is 0.35 euro (as it is on the French site too!).
 
It is indeed a little more expensive in Belgium (0.40 euro) so I tried to order from Germany, but they won't deliver to a place outside the country.
It is just a pity they don't give you the partnumber corresponding to the old one.
 
railaddict said:
It is indeed a little more expensive in Belgium (0.40 euro) so I tried to order from Germany, but they won't deliver to a place outside the country.
It is just a pity they don't give you the partnumber corresponding to the old one.
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There are only 2 part numbers which are these:
30889490 & 30803460 and they are both still available.
 
Useful thread!

I remembered I had some in my stores which I bought from Playmobil direct a few years ago along with some other spares parts, and indeed they were under the old part number 7231.

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ntpntpntp said:
Useful thread!

I remembered I had some in my stores which I bought from Playmobil direct a few years ago along with some other spares parts, and indeed they were under the old part number 7231.
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Technically, 7231 is not the "part number", it's the "set number". The part numbers are all 8 digits. If you think you have a 7 digit part number, the 8th digit is an invisible zero.
 
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Technically, 7231 is not the "part number", it's the "set number". The part numbers are all 8 digits. If you think you have a 7 digit part number, the 8th digit is an invisible zero.
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Now.....

Is that the 8th digit (right-hand end)?
OR
The 1st digit (left-hand end)?

I would presume a 'leading' zero? - But one never knows! :wondering:
 
PhilP said:
Now.....

Is that the 8th digit (right-hand end)?
OR
The 1st digit (left-hand end)?

I would presume a 'leading' zero? - But one never knows! :wondering:
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It's 8th digit right hand end. For example, www.playmodb.org shows an excerpt from an original instruction sheet showing a 7 digit part number, but also shows the 8 digits to be used.
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The older instructions had 7 digit part numbers:
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But the newer instructions with the same part add the zero to the end:
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It's also notable that the playmobil parts department wants the empty spaces in the part number removed. If you try to use the spaces in the USA, they may ask you to remove the spaces if there is a large order with many part numbers, but if it's a small order they might change it themselves. If you leave the spaces in on the web store of other countries you get something like this telling you to remove the spaces and use 8 digits:

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But if you remove the spaces and use the 8th digit 0 you get this:
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Notice their inconsistency in referring to it as both a part number (when asking for it without spaces) and product number (near the price). They also have an inconsistency in sometimes referring to set numbers as product numbers. So If we are to charitably assume their competence, 'product number' would seem to be a generic blanket term applying to both part numbers and set numbers.
 
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Just for info, I've just recently replaced my RC Diesel traction tyres, using LGB 69184 46.5mm traction tyres.
 
I finally received the tires and did not even have to pay for them, one of each reference.

Now comes the next problem:how do I put them on the wheels? I have removed the screws underneath to have access to the block but nothing moves. There are clips holding the châssis to the body but they are so hard to move that I fear to break them. How did you manage to replace them?
 
I don't think you need to open the motorblock or anything to put on traction tires. You just stretch the new tires onto the wheels which have the slots for them. Start on one side of the wheel (the side hardest to reach) and slowly bring the rest of the tire around the wheel while making sure the first section you've placed does not come off.
 
I tried, but it did not work, just could not keep in place the part already placed in the slot. Now, to be honest, I don't remember if I tried it on the hardest part to reach. I'll give it a new try.
 
railaddict said:
I tried, but it did not work, just could not keep in place the part already placed in the slot. Now, to be honest, I don't remember if I tried it on the hardest part to reach. I'll give it a new try.
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I know it can be tricky, but I think it's the only way. Maybe you can try to stretch the tire slightly just before trying to put it on, or put the tire under warm water just before trying to install it. Really I think you just need to force it on. Make sure it seats flat and doesn't have a twist in it when it's finally on.
 
I can confirm it is tricky, but I managed with your advice. I used pliers to help get the tire in position at the lower point of the wheel and blocked it and then pushed gently with a screwdriver until it got all around the wheel. I also stretched it before use. That is something I used to do on my H0m locos, but I had forgotten it.
Thanks for your assistance.
 
You've managed it now anyway, but I find the easiest way to fit tyres is to use two cocktail sticks as tyre-irons. Offer the tyre into the groove at one point on the wheel, then use one cocktail stick in each hand and simply go round both sides at the same time stretching and guiding the tyre into the groove until you come together again on the other side. It takes a matter of seconds :)
 
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