Peckforton Railway - the pickup goods

ge_rik

British narrow gauge (esp. Southwold and W&LLR)
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Some fine weather recently has enabled me to have a few good running sessions. Just thought you might want to follow the pickup goods as it makes its run. Sorry about a few anomalies for the purists but I do enjoy freight operations. Here's my attempt to show how the daily pickup goods might have operated on my line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qji...tices would be gratefully received. Rik
 
I must say that this was a very well put together movie, the sounds certainly put on board sound systems of any type to shame. Well done.

Just a couple of small points to think about when you next make a vid, on the opening shot the loco attaches to the wagons then shunts onto the brake pushing it back some. In reality there should be a stop as the wagons touch the brake for the shunter to attach. The same happened on one of the intermediate shunts where the loco runs round and bangs straight onto the brake without a pause. Small niggles but it is worth remembering that you need to allow some time for the guard to couple up. I normally reckon to count 5 seconds.

Top video and very enjoyable.
JonD
 
dunnyrail said:
Just a couple of small points to think about when you next make a vid, on the opening shot the loco attaches to the wagons then shunts onto the brake pushing it back some. In reality there should be a stop as the wagons touch the brake for the shunter to attach. The same happened on one of the intermediate shunts where the loco runs round and bangs straight onto the brake without a pause. Small niggles but it is worth remembering that you need to allow some time for the guard to couple up. I normally reckon to count 5 seconds.
JonD

Thanks Jon
Yes - I recognise what you're saying. I was conscious of trying to hurry things along for the video but I was a bit over enthusiastic with some of the moves. Still not managed to get that fine degree of control with MTS that others seem to get.

Rik
 
Brilliant. What a beautiful trip through your garden.
I love seeing trains 'doing something'.
I can't imagine how long it took you to dub the sound effects.
BTW, do you know you can remove that time/date stamp from the spycam video. I use Virtual Dub free download for editing and you can downlload a free plugin called TimeStampRemover. I think I actually found all the info on this forum.
 
JRinTawa said:
Must have taken some editing to get that sound track,

Yes, it was a bit of a fiddle but once I'd started it became compulsive. I'm building up quite a library of clips and snippets. Many are ripped from videos of the W&LLR but others (eg the tippler wagon sounds) are from an industrial railway in China or from a video showing wagons being shunted at Didcot. I had to change the 'tempo' on quite a few ripped sound clips - things happen so much more slowly on the real thing - but maybe it means I should take a bit more time for manoeuvres on my model.

I'm going to try filming clips of my own of shunting and run rounds etc. at the next W&LLR Gala. One thing I couldn't find anywhere was a satisfying buffer clang. I think preservationists avoid fly-shunting but I'm sure it was a feature of the soundscape in any railway yard when I was a sprog. I seem to remember it being a background to that wonderful Ealing Comedy 'The Lady Killers'.

Rik
 
Great video, super sound effects, one of the better ones.......:thumbup:
 
gregh said:
BTW, do you know you can remove that time/date stamp from the spycam video. I use Virtual Dub free download for editing and you can downlload a free plugin called TimeStampRemover. I think I actually found all the info on this forum.

Thanks Greg
Took about a day to find, edit and synch the sound clips - but quite enjoyable once I got started.
Not used Virtual dub but have downloaded it and tracked down the plug in - just need to figure out how to use it - thanks for that

Rik
 
ge_rik said:
Thanks Greg
Took about a day to find, edit and synch the sound clips - but quite enjoyable once I got started.
Not used Virtual dub but have downloaded it and tracked down the plug in - just need to figure out how to use it - thanks for that
Rik
Once you've installed the plug-in, You just open your video file, then go to Video menu, Filters, Add and scroll down to find Timestamp Remover. OK a couple of times and you should be done.
Then before you go to (re)save the file, you should select a compression type from Video, compression. I use one of the Microsoft MPEG ones, as these are compatible with MS Movie Maker that I use.

Now can you explain how to rip sound files from Youtube for me please?
 
Great vid. My sound cards gone west so I cant hear the reportedly brilliant sound.
 
gregh said:
Now can you explain how to rip sound files from Youtube for me please?

Greg
Thanks for the guidance on time stamp removal - sounds relatively straightforward (famous last words!).

http://www.any-video-converter.com/products/for_video_free/ < Link To Any Video Converter (a freebie) will grab Youtube videos - just insert the Youtube URL and tell AVC what format you want it converted into. I tend to save the clips as wmv so I can watch them at my leisure and find the most relevant bits for sound. AVC will also save the sound track from any video as an mp3 file - so you could go directly from Youtube to mp3 and cut out the intermediate step.

I then import the sound clip into http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ < Link To Audacity (another freebie). I can then extract the specific part of the clip needed and then if needs be change the tempo (this changes the speed without changing the pitch) to match the length of my video clip - or the speed at which my train is passing.

It's actually a lot easier than it sounds (sorry about the pun!).

Rik
 
Rik, really enjoyed the video - brings back memories of our enjoyable visit:D
 
flyingsignalman said:
Rik, really enjoyed the video - brings back memories of our enjoyable visit:D

Thanks Keith

Had a few comments from various sources about my heavy handed shunting - I've mended my ways since the video and am now being a lot more gentle. I blame those Hartland couplers which need a good whack to engage. Once day I'll replace them all with something more prototypical..... One day!

Rik
 
ge_rik said:
Yes, it was a bit of a fiddle but once I'd started it became compulsive. I'm building up quite a library of clips and snippets. Many are ripped from videos of the W&LLR but others (eg the tippler wagon sounds) are from an industrial railway in China or from a video showing wagons being shunted at Didcot. I had to change the 'tempo' on quite a few ripped sound clips - things happen so much more slowly on the real thing - but maybe it means I should take a bit more time for manoeuvres on my model.

I'm going to try filming clips of my own of shunting and run rounds etc. at the next W&LLR Gala. One thing I couldn't find anywhere was a satisfying buffer clang. I think preservationists avoid fly-shunting but I'm sure it was a feature of the soundscape in any railway yard when I was a sprog. I seem to remember it being a background to that wonderful Ealing Comedy 'The Lady Killers'.

Rik
I think that you are correct about the shunting sounds in the Ladykillers. I appreciate all the effort that you have gone to to entertain with this Vid. Also having had a go at making some myself, but not with your super sound effect editing I know how difficult it can be to do it all by yourself. In particular driving, coupling filming etc. Also do you do a Story Line of what you are going to do. I did one with the first Vid that I made over a week of filming on the FR and what a difference it made. Never done one since and the vids hat I do show it! Couplings in G can be an issue. Personally I have been through pretty much the lot and have to say that for operation and ease of use LGB take the 1st Prize. No prizes for looks but in my view they are unbeatable. All stock is converted to LGB replacements, double hooks and loco hooks lowered by a small strip of 30 thou plasticard under the coupling skrew. Good luck with your next production.
JonD
 
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