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musket the dog

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Last year I brought a Wilesco traction engine and have been thinking about how to make it look better. One of the first things I thought of was painting the garish shiny silver boiler.

Seeing as the boiler gets quite hot I was wondering what type of paint would be suitable for painting the boiler? Will normal spray paint do or will I need something more specialised and heat resistant?

Many Thanks,
Ricky :)
 
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Ricky,

Automotive paints from Halfords etc are better than the plasti-cote ones you'll find in many DIY stores.

The guys in Halfords will also be able to point out the ones capable of high temp tolerance.
 

musket the dog

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Ok, hmmmmm. Is there not any type of primer that would overcome this problem?

I'll have to have a look around and see what I can find. In the meantime I can still get tyres and detailed parts :)
 

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Would the design allow you to put a brass wrapper around the boiler with a thin layer of lagging between the layers? Brass is much easier to paint.
 

musket the dog

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I did think about cladding the boiler, but I'm not sure how I would go about it. Has anybody done anything like this and a similar project?

Also where would be a good place to get hold of brass to do this with?

Many thanks,
Ricky
 

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Contrary to what Keith has said , I would recommend Plasti-Kote. I used this on my Mercer traction engine, no probs at all. I also used their universal primer over brass and again no problems. Even after an accidental fire there was virtually no damage to the paintwork although it got hot enough to melt the soldered wheel spokes causing a wheel to collapse.

I wrote to the company re heat resistance , this is the reply :

"
Please be aware that neither product is classed as automotive and my
concern is that as they are not oil or petrol resistant your application
may not be suitable.

Under normal circumstances both the Super Spray Paint and Metal Protekt
are heat resistant up to approximately 150oC.

Regards

Gemma Clark
Plasti-kote
A Valspar Brand "

Oil does not seem to affect it, I have a puddle under the cranks and paintwork is good. As far as nickel plate goes I would try a small bit first.I really don't know if it would take a coat of paint, but you would need to clean/degrease and rough it up a bit. If you do decide to paint it make sure it is spotlessly clean, use cellulose thinners or meth ( trichloroethelene is my fave) and rough it up a bit with 320/400 grade wet n dry, for top coat use old 400/800. Good luck ![/pre]
 

pjti

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To add to my revious post :

Tac is right , you can't get nickel plate to take a coat of paint. I tried to find an option to easily strip it but thats all a bit dodgy too. It involves miuratic acid (hydrochloric) which is used to clean concrete and brick. It can be removed by electrolosis - a reverse procedure of that used to plate it to start with. The best idea is as suggested give it a brass jacket
 

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An etching primer should be used after degreasing then a good quality car paint such as car plan.Don't use plastic based paints such as humbrol.
 

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Greetings. If you expect the parts to be painted to reach a high temperature, I would use one of the exhaust manifold primers and paints. Today, there are lots of colors in redi-mix spray cans. If you want a special color, look at the following note I posted to a forum in the MyLargeScale site. The procedure I followed to repaint a badly scratched Aster Jumbo boiler. For the special color, the cost was about $80 [50 Pounds]. You need either a respirator or a warm temperature for the automotive paints.

"Greetings. Painting a boiler jacket from scratch can be easy, but it is also a little expensive. At the suggestion of Bob Weltyk of Weltyk's Whistles, I took a new, but badly scratched boiler jacket for an Aster Jumbo to a local auto paint supply store. They did a spectrum analysis of the original jacket and mixed their minimum batch of 16 oz. and put it into spray cans with special nozzles. Of course you have to wet sand and properly clean the jacket before painting. On recommendation from the paint store, I used 600 grit wet sandpaper, then washed it with soap and water and finally washed it down with alcohol. Before painting, I used a hair blower to make sure the jacket was completely dry. Because of the makeup of the paint, you must have a very well ventilated area and the temp should be 70 degrees. I applied 4 thin coats at about 15 minute intervals and then baked the painted jacket. Instructions say to bake it in a preheated oven at 140 degrees for 40 minutes. Our oven will only go down to 180, so I gambled with the higher temperature and it worked well. Also, per Bob's recommendation I left the jacket in the oven after turning it off to let it cool gently. The paint supply guys said properly applied paint will withstand 600 degrees without difficulty. When the jacket cooled, I compared it to the factory painted steam dome cover. The color of the newly painted jacket was indistinguishable from the factory paint job, regardless of the light [direct sun, flourescent, haolgen, incandescent or just a bright room]! Because of the minimum order, I now have enough paint for 7 more boiler jackets, tender shells or even coaches. The cost for the spectrum analysis, paint and spray cans was $72 plus tax. Would I do it again? Absolutely, even though the paint is expensive, the value of a properly painted vs. badly scratched locomotive more than makes up for the cost. Good luck."


Regards,

Will