Occre Soller tram kit

Old Tom

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I love building plank-on-frame wooden ships but have not done one recently because I couldn't find a way of incorporating one into my layout. :(

However, I came across these tram kits. They use the same construction technique and materials
(e.g. planks of wood and bits of bent wire) so they are just as much fun to build but will actually look good on a railway (if you suspend belief for a time :D ).
http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/OC53003.html
I got mine from Cornwall Model Boats but Glendale Junction have them at the same price (but sadly, he wasn't open at the time I wanted to place my order).

I'm doing a bit of a kit bash with this because I want to try and give it a British feel so out goes the pantograph and in comes the 'let's pretend it's a cable type tram like The Great Orme'. :)

First pic shows the added planking of the platforms and the aisle which I did just to add a bit of texture and interest. (and it also gives you a view of the kit contents and my really tidy workbench)
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By the way, that is a thing about these kits - they are very detailed in places but could use some extra detailing in others. e.g. there is no detailed running gear between the sole bars, you just get two basic axle holders. And the front panel detail along with the 'dashboard' are just printed paper. But there are lots of metal castings to detail other areas.

The thing I have problems with is the stated scale. 1:24 looks wrong (here's a 6' tall woman who looks decidedly small)
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I think it's more 1:18 (here's 6' tall man) who looks a lot more in scale, which siuts me perfectly. It will happily stand next to my Caradoc and Mortimer.
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Anyway, it's a good value kit with lots of bashing potential - and I'm enjoying building it. :)
 
I bought this one and the Berlin tram recently and have put them away for a rainy day when I've nothing else to do (I wish!!!). Are you going to motorise them? I've got some Aristo motor blocks which I hope to adapt.
 
Cheers, Mel. :)

Mike: I'm going to motorise it using a basic battery set up. My track isn't powered so I think it'll be a question of using 3v and lots of low gearing to end up with a sedate 'toddle' around the track.

But then again..... :cool:
 
Old Tom said:
The thing I have problems with is the stated scale. 1:24 looks wrong (here's a 6' tall woman who looks decidedly small)
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What makes you think she's 6 ft tall ?

She only looks 5' 2" to me !
 
DoctorM said:
What makes you think she's 6 ft tall ?

She only looks 5' 2" to me !

Exactly DoctorM. The figure is 3" tall so at a scale of 1:24, she's 6'! :)
 
I guess that makes it about 1:20 then!

Their publicity states 1:24 but the dimensions (eg 110mm width) do look more like 1:20 to me too.

Maybe she's 5' 7" and it's really LGB G-scale 1:22.5!
 
You are doing a nice job on it! Will be nice to see it complete.... They say on the boxes that they are 1:24 "G" scale but to measure that we need a rubber ruler.:D
They come up on ebay at times, the cable car is up now. I've thought of building the Cable car and bashing it into a Sydney F class car though dimensionally it would have all the purists sending offensive emails. Or just make it up into a "callifornia" style tram with a trolley pole and controllers at each end. The Occre motrorising kits look a bit "hows ya father to me" so I'd have to find some nice tram style power trucks for it to run on.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/OcCre-Sa..._US&hash=item25796dca6a&_uhb=1#ht_1106wt_1330 < Link To http://www.ebay.com.au/it...;_uhb=1#ht_1106wt_1330
Not sure that the ebay price is all that good....
 
I used USA train moterblocks the trams riding verry well with them
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Regard Harry
 
A quick update on how I'm getting on. As you can see I've mostly completed the interior and started planking the outside:
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Regarding the planking, I've gone for horizontal rather than the vertical planking of the prototype for 2 reasons. Firstly I'm trying to make it look more like a UK tram ( :) ) and secondly, when I saw vids of the real thing on YouTube, I noticed that the planks would be about half the width of those supplied in the kit and made it look a bit wrong. So beware anyone who wants to build this as per prototype.

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I've only got this far so quickly (for me) because of the freezing 'orrible weather we're having. I'd sooner be outdoors running trains! :D
 
Tom,
I'm interested to know how you dealt with the window frames.
I have two of these kits on the go, over almost four years now.
They have stalled over fitting the silver bar across the bottom of the upper section.
I also decided to go for a UK style, and cut one end of each floor section, so that I could invert it, and make the entrances on opposite sides.
I don't have any pics to show, but they can be seen in my avatar, on the shelf at head level.
I ultimately intend to run on battery power with RC.
 
Hi Rob,
That's a helluva conversion you are trying to do. I thought of chopping and inverting the platform but had a closer look to what it might entail (i.e. would everything fit and/or be strong enough) and chickened out! :(
Regarding the silver bar for the upper windows, all I did was paint a full length of 2 x 2 with Humbrol acrylic aluminium and cut to size - worked fine.
BTW, I didn't leave any windows open (as suggested in the instructions) because I thought it would have to be a REALLY hot day for us in the UK to sit by a wide open window! :D
 
Old Tom said:
Hi Rob,
That's a helluva conversion you are trying to do. I thought of chopping and inverting the platform but had a closer look to what it might entail (i.e. would everything fit and/or be strong enough) and chickened out!
I found the floor quite strong when the cut piece was glued back on (PVA).
Eventually, there was a hint of bowing, so I glued some 6x8 solebars underneath, which also locate the IP motor unit.
I'm not impressed with the motor unit, as the wheels are too small, and it's quite noisy.
This is a little further down the road yet, and I may have to mount batteries under the seats.
I also want to make the roof removable... No wonder I've stalled!
I took a load of pics at Soller, including this one in a glass case in the station hall:-
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Nice build, Tom, instead of making it a model of a Soller tram how about a model of a 1950's Palma tram, (the trams were similar, but the Palma trams had openings on both sides, unlike the Soller trams with openings on the landward side only). I have built the Tibidao tram, used an LGB power block and Sommerfeldt pantograph. :thumbup: Alyn
 
I saw an old pic of a Soller tram, showing openings on both sides.
Presumably one side was panelled over later. Just can't see why.
This is usually because the stops are all on the same side of the track, but this is not so in Soller.
Perhaps someone will know.
 
Thanks Alyn, but I'm too far on to think of modifying the openings so I'm going to go with the strange 'one side only' configuration. It looks interesting if nothing else :)

Rob: It gets worse! To fit the angle bars you have to 'file down' the spring casting. Now this would be an easy job if the castings were made out of soft white metal but unfortunately, they are made of the hard zinc alloy that is used in diecast car bodies - not an easy substance to file expecially 'in situ'. So I had to remove them and tried grinding with a Dremel but that was useless so I got the hacksaw out.
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It doesn't look as good as a nice 45% angle but it'll have to do. :(

This is my excellent 'state of the art' top notch electronic power installation :D The switch will be mounted on the step when I make it so it won't be too obvious.

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All made from old bits of IP 1:40 running gear and a battery holder from the spares box. It works well, though. She toddles around at a nice scale 15 MPH and makes a tram-like whine!
 
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