Occre London tram kit

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Hi all
I have been plodding on with one of these kits for my other half and thought I would share my experiences with you.
She likes that period of history and wanted something of her own to run that wasn't a loco. Turned out she had a relative that was on the trams in Derby so we went for that. I was going to scratch one up but then Occre announced their new kit and so I got one from Glendale Junction.
I know it isn't strictly correct for Derby but it has the right "feel" I think.

Anyway, the kit is ok but not great, several silly mistakes in the design and a strange order of construction with that preference for painting and glazing midway through the construction. It is also VERY fragile, even though I have reinforced it and replaced the front aprons with brass, if you are going to run it then you will have to be carefull. The long handrails around the upper deck are all new from K&S instead of the nasty coiled stuff in the kit, the mesh was cut out and glued into each section propperly rather than just laying it behind. The stairs were very poor and had to be redone which was difficult with their curved shape.

As I said, I changed several bits and reinforced it, throwing quite a bit away and rethinking the construction order.
I didn't like the motor design so opted to do my own from some wheels I had in stock. I used a bit of scrap nickel and a low voltage geared motor from Como drills, plus some gears from mecanno that I machined to fit and also some delrin chain to link the axles. The plan is to have some AA battery's under the floor to power it and the lights, just a simple on/off switch with no reverse will do.

You can see that I did some coats of off white and then either hand painted or airbrushed the rest, plus used my lining pen quite a bit.
It still isn't finished yet but you can see how far it is. I am just getting some nice transfers made for it then I can glaze it and finish the upper deck. It is a big thing in our scale but looks great I think after all the work.
As to whether I would recommend it.........it would depend on your skills, but I would say for me personaly it would have been far easier and cheaper to build it from scratch! Plus it would be far stronger!
Cheers
Rob

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Hi!

It's very helpful to have this firsthand experience. I was contemplating buying one of these (the Tibidabao model) and modifying it for my own (outdoor) system. But, now I won't if they are that fragile. The Derby model does look good tho'

GH
 
Agree with all comments/criticisms, especially fragility.
Briliant work so far.
Maybe you've given me a kick-start to continue with my "stalled" Soller cars.
 
regardless-thats beautiful, nicely painted and lined too
i like the side frames
i would like to know how the motor runs-ie noise and speed,

the mesh job really gives it "the look"
musnt topple it -

will it have .....lights!??
 
I would think the single decker ones would be less fragile, especialy with a different front end. Glad you like it so far.
Motor and gears run nicely with little noise, mainly due to a lack of weight and not working hard. I went for the 15:1 ratio motor/gears and then ran them through the mecanno set, but If I had gone for teh 30:1 ratio I could then have gone 1:1 instead of further reduction with the mecanno gears.

I love the look of the side frames myself, I strengthened them from behind as they are vulnerable when picking it up.
The mesh on the upper deck was a night mare, BUT was well worth doing for that nice look to it. I am going to make the solid boards that go under them from thin brass rather than the ply soaked in water!

Yes it will have lights, both inside, destination blinds and headlamp........rude not to :bigsmile:

Cheers
Rob
 
Oh, that is well tasty! I have a thing about traditional trams and electric locos - not this modern stuff though!
 
Very appealing - nice work and excellent painting/lining out:thumbup:
 
Maybach, in a word magnificent... I think the methode de motorisation is brilliant.

These are a tad on the pricey side in Au. when for around au$600 I can get a CNC Laser cutter/engraver and make my own....
The motor blocks that are sold to go with the kit are I'm reliably told very very average and hyper expensive so your solution looks very practical.... The price in Au for a kit and motor block is over AU$300 and thats what has stopped me....
 
a fantastic moidel, with a excelent build discripton, thanks:thumbup:
 
That's one mouth-wateringly lovely model. Have you finished it yet Rob?
I missed this thread when it started in March, for some reason. :(
 
Fantasti model. We went to Barcelona recently and travelled on the Tramvia Blau. I thought then it would be a nice model to make. As mentioned, they're quite pricey.
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At the top
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No7 arriving at the top. It's a hell of a climb but the descent is even more interesting if you've any technical background. Those brakes are grinding all the way down.
 
Hi all.
Thanks for the nice comments, glad you all like it so far. Unfortunately it has not progressed any further as I am waiting for the transfers to be made for it. He takes his time but they are worth the cost and the wait. Once I get those I can varnish it all, fit the lights and electrics, glaze it then fix on the upper deck properly and fit all the seats. It should look nice when complete and running.
In hindsight I would have just got some drawings and made my own from scratch, probably a bogie version too, but it was still OK to build and makes a pleasing model with some work.
There will be updates and pictures as and when there is any progress to see, but feel free to give me a "kick" just in case. :)

Cheers
Rob
 
Very nice build Rob. Would concur with all your comments having built one of their "Madrid" trams. Started it 10+ years ago, got scared and left it for another 7 to complete. Taught me a lot about working with laser cut wood structures. I, like you, ditched the coiled wire in the kit but I used a USAT motor block that was about the right W/B to power it. Used the supplied "decals", - laminated the paper, applied double sided to the back and then some veerryy careful work with a scalpel. Happy I bought/finally built it, yes. Would I do it all over again. probably not. Max
 
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