NEW!!! Programmable RCS 2.4 GHz 8 channel Rx.

Tony Walsham

Tony Walsham

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It has taken over three years, but at long last the DSM2/DSMX RCS Rx107 programmable Auto Bind 2.4 Ghz is now available.
The Rx107 has been designed to improve upon the well known Deltang Rx102-1 and be competitive on price.
There are two versions, End mount pins and Top mount pins.

Rx107-EM


They are designed for both Live Steam and Battery R/C.
The hardware is made by Xenon R/C in China and the completely new Firmware comes from MICRON R/C in the UK.
The regular MSRP will be A$39 each (US$ 26 and the GB £20).
There is an introductory price of A$ 29 each whilst the 10cm antenna versions last.

LIST OF FEATURES

* AUTOMATIC BINDING.
* 20 CM DIVERSITY ANTENNAS.
* SERVO REVERSING ON 7 x CHANNELS.
* SERVO END POINTS ADJUSTABLE.
* OPTIONAL EXTRA EXTERNALLY VISIBLE CPU LED.
* FORWARD & REVERSE CONSTANT BRIGHTNESS LIGHTING.
* SUITS LIVE STEAM & BATTERY R/C.
* WILL MATCH UPCOMING 10 CHANNELS Tx CORE IN FUTURE.
* SYSTEM HARD RESET USING REGULAR HEADSHUNT.
* SELECTABLE ON - OFF DIRECT SOUND TRIGGERS.


For full information go to Remote Control Systems - Receivers DSM2 Advanced

Specific instructions can be seen here https://www.rcs-rc.com/store/PDF/Instructions/Receivers/Rx107.pdf
 
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Hi Tony
May I ask a few questions sir.
1) Is it totally compatible with deltang controllers from RC Trains
2) It is auto binding to other makes of controller (all deltang of course)
3) What happens in auto binding if there is another controller (besides your own) nearby (is the auto bind distance less than the controllable distance?)
Cheers
 
PhilP

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Hi Tony
May I ask a few questions sir.
1) Is it totally compatible with deltang controllers from RC Trains
2) It is auto binding to other makes of controller (all deltang of course)
3) What happens in auto binding if there is another controller (besides your own) nearby (is the auto bind distance less than the controllable distance?)
Cheers
I can answer these, Mike:
(Then Tony can correct me!) ;)

1. Nearly.. - Only thing it will not know about is 'Selecta'.

2. All 'Autobind' means is you do not have to stick the black plug on it to initiate binding.. It will bind to all DSM2/DSMx transmitters.
Tx off.
Rx on, wait for fast-flash.
Hold bind, switch Tx on, wait for solid LED's on both.
DONE.

3. You should not really be binding with other stuff 'on'...
But everytime you switch Rx on it will go into binding, if it does not find a valid Tx.. As you have to initiate the binding process from the Tx, the Rx will 'time-out' of the binding process (Rx65/66 etc.) of stay flashing 'forever' if a Rx102 et-al.

That is why the mantra is "Tx on first..."

PhilP.
 
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Any idea if this will bind with playmobil 2.4 GHz controllers?:
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PhilP

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I doubt it..

I have the controller, etc. from a modern Playmobil, but not the instructions. :rolleyes:
(Dinner nearly ready, but can have a play after..) :)
 
Tony Walsham

Tony Walsham

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Mike, Phil and -bbbb

This new Rx works with DSM2 and DSMX protocols only.
Yes it is totally compatible with all Deltang based Tx handpieces. EXCEPT, it does not have Selecta.
Andy will have his own version soon that does have Selecta
It has been developed using Deltang Tx2 core modules which are what powers my Tx's.
It is a follow on to the Rx102-1, but, how it is programmed is a lot different. The SOS access to programming system on Ch # 5 has been added.
There is an extra JST ZH port (Ch # 8) for a LED repeater.
All 7 servo channels can be repurposed.
Binding should ideally be carried out without DSM2/DSMX systems also being ON.
 
Tony Walsham

Tony Walsham

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Hello Gentlemen.
Apropos to using the Tx107 with various Tx's I have done a bit more testing.
I found one Deltang Tx2 combination that would not bind with this Rx.
For some weird, as yet unsolved reason, a Tx2 using profile # 5 and servo setting # 3 goes crazy and will not bind with the Rx107..
It binds and works just fine with servo settings # 1 & # 2, but not # 3.
About 18 months ago I had to send 72 Tx2 core modules back to reload firmware because of dropout and cross talk problems with said TX2's.
Andy Rutter at Micron kindly helped me out there.
 
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Tony,

So this effectively makes a significant reduction in the price of DSM2 and DSMX battery radio control locos with MyLocoSound. Because we can now connect the soundcard triggers direct to the receiver it means that we don't need a switching unit and the total price drops by A$49 for three functions. Nice work Micron and Tony.

Regards
Peter Lucas
MyLocoSound
 
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Tony,

So this effectively makes a significant reduction in the price of DSM2 and DSMX battery radio control locos with MyLocoSound. Because we can now connect the soundcard triggers direct to the receiver it means that we don't need a switching unit and the total price drops by A$49 for three functions. Nice work Micron and Tony.

Regards
Peter Lucas
MyLocoSound
Where does that leave people who do not use the DSM2 and DSMX protocol with regard sound cards, are they going to be forced to change their transmitters/receivers if they want to use My Loco Sound in the future?
 
PhilP

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Where does that leave people who do not use the DSM2 and DSMX protocol with regard sound cards, are they going to be forced to change their transmitters/receivers if they want to use My Loco Sound in the future?
Not true!

The Rx102 drives Servo's, so you needed a 'switcher' to translate the servo signal to a 'trigger' for the sound card.
ANY R/C combination that drives servo's needs a switcher to translate the signals to triggers the MLS card can use.

The DSM2/DSMX protocol is what the Transmitter 'talks' to the Receiver.. We are talking the outputs from the receiver to trigger the sound card.


The Rx107 can be configured to give these triggers directly, without the need of an external device to translate from servo-signals to triggers.

NOTE:
These 'triggers' are a logic output, giving a ground (limited current!) when 'on'.
These can be used to trigger sound cards, operate LED's (watch maximum current-draw), or to operate relay/transistor switches for other accessories.

HTH?
PhilP
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GAP

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Not true!

The Rx102 drives Servo's, so you needed a 'switcher' to translate the servo signal to a 'trigger' for the sound card.
ANY R/C combination that drives servo's needs a switcher to translate the signals to triggers the MLS card can use.

The DSM2/DSMX protocol is what the Transmitter 'talks' to the Receiver.. We are talking the outputs from the receiver to trigger the sound card.


The Rx107 can be configured to give these triggers directly, without the need of an external device to translate from servo-signals to triggers.

NOTE:
These 'triggers' are a logic output, giving a ground (limited current!) when 'on'.
These can be used to trigger sound cards, operate LED's (watch maximum current-draw), or to operate relay/transistor switches for other accessories.

HTH?
PhilP
RC Trains
Thanks that is a clear explanation I will still need a switcher for my sound triggers.
 
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PhilP is correct. MyLocoSound works with all known radio controls. The following receivers can be connected direct to the soundcard to trigger the whistle, horn, bell, guard, etc.:
  • Fosworks
  • Micron/RCS DSM2 and DSMX
  • Revolution
  • Railboss
Other receivers will need a switching unit which works out at about nine pounds per trigger.

Regards
Peter Lucas
MyLocoSound
 
Tony Walsham

Tony Walsham

Manufacturer of RCS Radio Control.
25 Oct 2009
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Casino, NSW
No one will be forced to change from whatever they are using now.
The Rx107 will make the total package significantly less expensive for DSM2/DSMX users.
It is sold with 5 x servo outputs (same as the Rx102-1) as the default. Plus Front and Rear directional lights.
All outputs can be programmed for 3 different output types.
Each Rx107 is supplied with a "Quick Start" simplified instruction sheet. 12 x pages of fully detailed instructions can be downloaded in pdf format.

ooooops
I forgot to actually post the above after post # 9
 
GAP

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PhilP is correct. MyLocoSound works with all known radio controls. The following receivers can be connected direct to the soundcard to trigger the whistle, horn, bell, guard, etc.:
  • Fosworks
  • Micron/RCS DSM2 and DSMX
  • Revolution
  • Railboss
Other receivers will need a switching unit which works out at about nine pounds per trigger.

Regards
Peter Lucas
MyLocoSound
Right so I do not have to change my Tx/Rx.

At the moment i am using a generic 2.4GHz Tx/Rx combo driving a pololu motor driver which works very well with the 2 MLS cards, that are connected to the motor output, giving me chuff rates on my Bachmann Shay and Consolidation, I do not use whistle triggers at the moment but am considering them for the future.

So what I am surmising is if I want to add a whistle function in the future that I can activate on demand, as opposed to just when moving off, I will have to add a switching unit that plugs into a Rx channel to get an on demand whistle?

Where do I get one of those, from yourself and what would be the price in Aust dollars?
 
Tony Walsham

Tony Walsham

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Hello GAP.
Take your pick. These will all work with any brand of R/C that has standard 1 ms to 2 ms servo signals.

R/C switches.
 
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Right so I do not have to change my Tx/Rx.

At the moment i am using a generic 2.4GHz Tx/Rx combo driving a pololu motor driver which works very well with the 2 MLS cards, that are connected to the motor output, giving me chuff rates on my Bachmann Shay and Consolidation, I do not use whistle triggers at the moment but am considering them for the future.

So what I am surmising is if I want to add a whistle function in the future that I can activate on demand, as opposed to just when moving off, I will have to add a switching unit that plugs into a Rx channel to get an on demand whistle?

Where do I get one of those, from yourself and what would be the price in Aust dollars?
GAP,

I can't see these units on Micron's web site but Fosworks has two trigger units at 17.80 pounds. In Australia RCS has single trigger units at A$19 and triple trigger units at A$49.

Regards
Peter Lucas
MyLocoSound
 
Tony Walsham

Tony Walsham

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Hello Peter.
Just to be clear.
There are two types of MRW R/C switches available from me.
A.) One function from one channel. (Usually idles at one end of servo throw).
B.) Two functions from one channel. (Idles in the middle of servo throw).
There are other R/C switches made that can have more than two triggers per channel, but I don't sell them.

Which one is the most suitable is determined by what the Tx handpiece trigger is.
All of the Tx's have a channel # 5 bind button and are more or less the same. It can use either a resistor or an R/C switch.

Type A. A Deltang (and RCS) Tx20 for example has two of type A (one per channel # 2 & # 4) so only two triggers total plus Ch # 5.
On the Rx107 they can use a simple resistor to connect with a MyLocosound trigger.

Type B. A Channel with a knob control can usually be made to idle in the middle. So it can achieve two triggers per channel twisting the knob either way and back again to the middle.
If you want to use pushbuttons instead of a knob to get two functions from one channel, some electronics are required to make the servo signal idle in the middle.
An RCS Du-Tx7 handpiece also uses Channels # 2 & # 4, so it has a total of 5 sound triggers.
Other than Channel # 5 they cannot use a simple resistor connection.

Type A R/C switches come in one channel, two channel and three channels.
Type B R/C switches come in one channel and two channel.
Some have relay outputs. Some have transistor outputs.

At the moment RCS only has 5 channel Tx handpieces, so the Rx107 is programmable to allow different uses for each available channel.
Very soon RCS will have a 7 channel handpiece. That will be four servo outputs and three single trigger outputs from the Rx107. That means you will be able to direct wire three MyLocosound triggers.
 
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GAP,

I was unable to follow Tony's response so I called him to try and get an understanding. I think the situation is this:
  • If your generic radio control transmitter has a simple push button with which you want to sound the whistle, etc. then you need to use RCS's MRW-SSSS (1 trigger) or MRW-SSTS (3 triggers) at A$19 and A$49 respectively.
  • If your generic radio control transmitter has a two way switch which is spring loaded to centre in the middle then you need to use RCS's MRW-SSDS (2 triggers) or MRW-SSQS (4 triggers) at A$29 and A$45 respectively.
If you are using a brand transmitter from Fosworks, Micron, RCS, Deltang, etc. then ring your supplier, tell them exactly what transmitter you have and what triggers you want. They will tell you which switch you need.

Regards
Peter Lucas
MyLocoSound
 
Tony Walsham

Tony Walsham

Manufacturer of RCS Radio Control.
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When Peter very kindly offered to make my information clearer, he mentioned that there are generic stick radios that use pushbuttons for function commands.
Would some kind soul please point out to me which generic stick radios using 1 ms - 2 ms per channel, have that feature.
Are there any with 6-7 channel stick radios that can do that?