New boiler testing rules

[tagorton]

im going to write a load of rules.. regarding boiler testing. and say its the offical test

And I suppose one of these rules will be that the loco owner who arrives for test has to bring cake....

Ah but now that would be a multi-faceted rule to apply to any form of loco testing under any power source......

One would also have to allow for regional variation of course. When dangerously close to Bromyard for example, the loco owner would have to bring Pork Pie

Certainly any running session of the Dartmoor Irregulars involves the bringing of all sorts of vittles... Seems a good rule to me.

 

[yb281]

im going to write a load of rules.. regarding boiler testing. and say its the offical test

And I suppose one of these rules will be that the loco owner who arrives for test has to bring cake....

Ah but now that would be a multi-faceted rule to apply to any form of loco testing under any power source......

One would also have to allow for regional variation of course. When dangerously close to Bromyard for example, the loco owner would have to bring Pork Pie

Certainly any running session of the Dartmoor Irregulars involves the bringing of all sorts of vittles... Seems a good rule to me.

It just starts getting weird when the host starts supplying bags of lead.

 

[whatlep]

One would also have to allow for regional variation of course. When dangerously close to Bromyard for example, the loco owner would have to bring Pork Pie

I think we could permit any snack food, so long as it's capable of being eaten with webbed fingers.

 

[mike]

golden rule tag.. if in dought BRING CAKE..failing that ..bring food.

 

[Doug]

You aren't insured

 

[tagorton]

You aren't insured

Of course one can set up one's own public liability insurance via Walker Midgely or another company ? although it would be cheaper to join one of the associations/societies who all have this as part of the membership package. But no ? otherwise one is not insured. Mind you have more chance of bonking Britney Spears than something going wrong with your loco...

 

[mike]

will i need protection for that too tag?

 

[tagorton]

will i need protection for that too tag?

As a respectable young sailor I am sure I would not know...

 

[yb281]

Plus most locos have less mileage on the clock.

 

[mike]

clock.. sorry mell ..

 

[mike]

will i need protection for that too tag?

As a respectable young sailor I am sure I would not know...

you and me too tag

 

[whatlep]

Mind you have more chance of bonking Britney Spears than something going wrong with your loco...

And the whole of GSC suddenly prays for a problem with their loco.......

 

[stockers]

On that basis an explosion seems a distinct possibility!!!!

 

[Dtsteam]

So far, in the name of steam engines in various sizes, I have been burnt, scalded, bruised, singed, cut, depilated and smacked in the balls by some tw*t waving a gas bottle about. Leaving aside the eternal poverty, endless tellings off for leaving oily marks on the tea-towels and the likelihood of developing a hernia, I would generally say that boiler certification is a good thing.
However, in our scale, provided that the engine is commercially built, the safety valve is untampered with, and the engine will run out of fuel before water, then that's probably about as safe as steam can be.

 

[Richie]

I'm new to live steam in G scale and have 2 second hand Accucraft loco's both of which came with out any certification i know from my dad's 5" gauge loco's that you have a boiler certifiate's did ask when i got the loco's should they have a certificate but was told no they don't come with any .

 

[tramcar trev]

Well to me on my side of the G scale fence this sound like someone had little to do and lots of time to do it and in the end did it their way....

From my perspective I'd be more concerned for my own kit, the risk of theft and intentional or unintentional acts of stupidity....

 

[tagorton]

I'm new to live steam in G scale and have 2 second hand Accucraft loco's both of which came with out any certification i know from my dad's 5" gauge loco's that you have a boiler certifiate's did ask when i got the loco's should they have a certificate but was told no they don't come with any .

Originally your locomotive would have come with 2WP certification for both boiler and gas tank. Unless the boiler is damaged then they will be perfectly safe. I would conduct a steam test on these locos. First of all check that the boiler blows off at working pressure and that there are no leaks on boiler fittings. Then leave the thing blowing off and ensure that the safety valve can expel all the steam that the burner can make. You do not require certificates for these tiny boilers, and if you are a member of an association then you are covered in terms of 3rd party insurance.

If you want to get your loco hydraulically tested, then I am sure that your Dad's club can arrange this for you - if not go to whichever association you are a member of. In terms of pure safety however, you have no worries. There is a safety factor of between seven and ten times on these little copper pressure vessels and, to put this in perspective, the safety factor on full size helicopters is 1.5.

 

[Richie]

I'm new to live steam in G scale and have 2 second hand Accucraft loco's both of which came with out any certification i know from my dad's 5" gauge loco's that you have a boiler certifiate's did ask when i got the loco's should they have a certificate but was told no they don't come with any .

Originally your locomotive would have come with 2WP certification for both boiler and gas tank. Unless the boiler is damaged then they will be perfectly safe. I would conduct a steam test on these locos. First of all check that the boiler blows off at working pressure and that there are no leaks on boiler fittings. Then leave the thing blowing off and ensure that the safety valve can expel all the steam that the burner can make. You do not require certificates for these tiny boilers, and if you are a member of an association then you are covered in terms of 3rd party insurance.

If you want to get your loco hydraulically tested, then I am sure that your Dad's club can arrange this for you - if not go to whichever association you are a member of. In terms of pure safety however, you have no worries. There is a safety factor of between seven and ten times on these little copper pressure vessels and, to put this in perspective, the safety factor on full size helicopters is 1.5.

Many thanks for that Tag have had both loco's checked over by John Campbell last year haven't had them in steam for a while now so will check the safety valve next time i have them in steam .

 

[tagorton]

I'm new to live steam in G scale and have 2 second hand Accucraft loco's both of which came with out any certification i know from my dad's 5" gauge loco's that you have a boiler certifiate's did ask when i got the loco's should they have a certificate but was told no they don't come with any .

Originally your locomotive would have come with 2WP certification for both boiler and gas tank. Unless the boiler is damaged then they will be perfectly safe. I would conduct a steam test on these locos. First of all check that the boiler blows off at working pressure and that there are no leaks on boiler fittings. Then leave the thing blowing off and ensure that the safety valve can expel all the steam that the burner can make. You do not require certificates for these tiny boilers, and if you are a member of an association then you are covered in terms of 3rd party insurance.

If you want to get your loco hydraulically tested, then I am sure that your Dad's club can arrange this for you - if not go to whichever association you are a member of. In terms of pure safety however, you have no worries. There is a safety factor of between seven and ten times on these little copper pressure vessels and, to put this in perspective, the safety factor on full size helicopters is 1.5.

Many thanks for that Tag have had both loco's checked over by John Campbell last year haven't had them in steam for a while now so will check the safety valve next time i have them in steam .

Ah well ? if John has seen them you have no worries at all... A steam test is basically a steam run!

 

[Walts-Playmobil]

Many years ago I went to a seven and a quarter AGM with my electric trams.
I was told that I could not run till I had produced a boiler certificate.
I asked them how you get a boiler certificate for a battery electric tram.
After a positive exchange of words they agreed I could run.