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AustrianNG

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Engerth loco climbing up to Gstadt station.

 
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very nice
the line's maturing well, Paul, and the postcrete idea really suits
 

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Is that a leccy or steam version, Mr Austrian?
 

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I think all of them had problems - but Paul's looks to be working OK (now)

Whatever, it's still a smart, and unusual loco :clap::clap::clap:
 

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Ah Paul's is an LGB Rugen's under the skin, that's why his works so well. Started out it's life as live steamy, but was a bit of PITA if remember right.

Yes they're a nice looking loco, but as you say mate at a lot of em had problems.

Paul's is certainly the most reliable running I've seen. Not a job for feint-hearted but fair play, you can't dispute the result.
 
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I tried every trick in the book to light it when it was live steam but the flame would just not burn inside the tube - always at the smokebox end.

So after giving it some thought and taking lots of measurements I bought another Rugens and fitted the chassis to the metal body. Sound and chip fitted in the tender weathering and the job was a good one.

Anyway thanks for the kind comments gents. The Mh6 is my flagship loco now.

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Bold move in more ways than one, but probably the mighty Rugens is the ultimate LGB chassis.

Certainly looks and does the part.

Now for some questions about the 1:1 version and the peculiar wheel arrangement / designation.

What's the curious piston along the side of the tender, and is the tender powered, or merely articulated, and so considered as part of the loco wheelbase?
 
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The rear of the loco (tender- if you like) is cantilevered onto the loco so that the weight of the tender helps with adhesive weight on the driving wheels. Those tubes you mention are part of that - they are more levers than pistons but of course need to slide to allow the tender to swing on corners. One of the many ways engineers tried to get better performance from smaller and narrow gauge locos.
 
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Developed by a guy called Engerth I believe.....and faithfully reproduced in this Regner/LGB hybrid.
 
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Articulated eh - I'm quite partial to a piece of arctic roll myself :rock::rock::rock::rock:
 

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Another clip of the Mh6 hauling goods this time.

 
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The following pictures show the LGB Rugens chassis mated with the Regner body of the Mh6 Engerth loco.

The tender articulation is a faithful reproduction of the real thing (In principle anyway).
The 0-8-0 LGB chassis is secured by two screws, the rear one is fixed through multiple plastic plates, all stuck together and stuck to the underside of the cab floor.
I did have to file away some of the external plating of the Regner lower bodywork to allow the driving wheels to have lateral movement to enable negotiation of an R1 point.
However, the loco will only negotiate one segment of R1, 2 segments together causes the loco to derail.

The articulation beam pivots about a central hex bolt as can be seen in the pics.
The decoder and speaker are fitted inside the tender which has plenty of room inside.

The last picture shows the maximum articulation of the tender.

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Thanks Paul, nice to see the photos of how you did it.....

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Ah Paul's is an LGB Rugen's under the skin, that's why his works so well. Started out it's life as live steamy, but was a bit of PITA if remember right.

Yes they're a nice looking loco, but as you say mate at a lot of em had problems.

Paul's is certainly the most reliable running I've seen. Not a job for feint-hearted but fair play, you can't dispute the result.

Apparently (according to Michael Adamson there) the one that they have for sale at GRS is finally running OK, after they had to put a LOT of work into it - it was one of the very few electric version kits made, and a pig to build and get to run. I don't know how much of the work was in terms of modification, or just fettling till it worked.

Jon.
 

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Apparently (according to Michael Adamson there) the one that they have for sale at GRS is finally running OK, after they had to put a LOT of work into it - it was one of the very few electric version kits made, and a pig to build and get to run. I don't know how much of the work was in terms of modification, or just fettling till it worked.

Jon.

I know two other enthusiasts that have the electric version, one of them is still building his kit, the other had it built by a specialist - it does run, but he isn't entirely happy with it - I can't remember the specifics, but considering how much it cost, he wasn't happy.
I believe Herr Regner sold 100 kits of the electric version.
 

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As some of you know another Mh6 exists on the EG&SNNR where it has been posed on one my bridges:

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It has also run on analogue on the Romney Marsh Model Engineering Society (where I used to be a member) garden railway track it performed well:

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Since then it has been stored indoors under wrapping paper waiting for me to get my act together and get it running on the EG&SNNR which will involve;

- locating the sound decoder purchased many moons ago
- locating the nut spinners also purchased many years ago to open up the tender
- opening said tender and installing said decoder and speaker

In theory it should be an easy job especially as I was told by the guy who got it working for me (who used to be an active guy on here) that appropriate wiring has been taken to the tender and there are no lights on the loco or smoke unit to be wired up.

Lets see what happens in 2018.......
 
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I know two other enthusiasts that have the electric version, one of them is still building his kit, the other had it built by a specialist - it does run, but he isn't entirely happy with it - I can't remember the specifics, but considering how much it cost, he wasn't happy.
I believe Herr Regner sold 100 kits of the electric version.
The loco itself fits into the description of being so ugly that it's beautiful.

So it's a huge shame that the Regner kits were beset with problems. I do remember the discussions at the time, and there was disappointment all round.

So it's great to see the odd one or two up and running :clap::clap::clap:
 

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I wonder what happened to the other 98?
 

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I seem to remember that the last time we discussed it, somebody (can't recall who) related that they thought six of the electric version kits had been brought into the UK. We've identified two of them (Keith's and the one that may or may not still be at GRS...). I'm not counting Paul's because that was originally a live steam version before it has its illicit liason with the LGB Rugen.

A total of one hundred electric versions does seem a VERY large number to me, for such a specialised model - are we sure that it wasn't 100 built in total, most of them being live steam and just a handful sold as electric....?

Even my Accucraft/MBV Schug live steam Wonky (1k) is one of a batch of only about 50 examples!

Jon.
 
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