Metal Wheels & Reversing Loops / Wye junctions
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idlemarvel
Neither idle nor a marvel
To complete the story of my attempt to get the Massoth reverse loop working, I sent the diagram to Massoth and they said it was wired correctly, so they suggested I send it to them to see if there was a fault. One month later and over £20 return P&P lighter I got it back with a letter saying there was no problem with the module. I'm sure it does work with Massoth CS, just not with my Lenz CS. As I have an alternative solution I am putting the module up for sale in another posting. Hey ho.
Greg Elmassian
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That does not make sense at all. Many people have used it in sensor mode (besides those posting here).
Sensor mode should never pass a short to the command station.
Something is fishy. Can you borrow another module from someone?
Greg
Sensor mode should never pass a short to the command station.
Something is fishy. Can you borrow another module from someone?
Greg
idlemarvel
Neither idle nor a marvel
Thanks for your interest Greg but I have moved on. I have a reverse loop solution that works and life is too short to spend more time getting the Massoth module to work or finding out why it doesn't, interesting though it might be. Sorry man.
Greg Elmassian
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glad you have a solution... that's first priority.
what did you end up with?
Greg
what did you end up with?
Greg
idlemarvel
Neither idle nor a marvel
I got a Lenz LK200 which worked first time out of the box.
I just finished installing a "wye" off of the main loop that will eventually go to a future reverse loop as pictured by Mark, Post #2, early in this thread. I used the LGB Reverse loop Module, 55085. I think this is the same as the Massoth module, just rebranded. The kit includes the same 8 isolating joiners, 4 sensor rail bits and 4 diodes included with the Massoth module. I went with the LGB module because I could get it about $10 cheaper.
The included diagrams in the LGB manual (and also Massoth's manual) do not include the track configuration shown by Mark. The configuration uses a single revere loop module. The loops at both ends are unswitched and the module switches the polarity of the single connector track in between the loops. After puzzling a while over how to wire it, I decided to just "follow the track". This is what I came up with.
Main + rail (Module In+) > Sensor 1 > Switched connector + rail (Module Out+) > Sensor 3 > Main - rail (same as Module In-)
Main - rail (Module In-) > Sensor 2 > Switched connector - rail (Module Out-) > Sensor 4 > Main + rail (same as Module In+)
Both the loop and wye shown in the module manuals are identical when looked at this way.
For my situation, the "switched connector" is a dead end spur until I get around to installing the second loop. Once the loop is complete, the second set of sensors, 1' through 4' will be piggy-backed on the originals using the same logic as above.
The module is working perfectly. The "Wye" lets me turn a train around without uncoupling and running the engine around the layout to connect the the other end to reverse direction.
Attached is a screenshot of my current CS3 trackboard.
Phil S.
The included diagrams in the LGB manual (and also Massoth's manual) do not include the track configuration shown by Mark. The configuration uses a single revere loop module. The loops at both ends are unswitched and the module switches the polarity of the single connector track in between the loops. After puzzling a while over how to wire it, I decided to just "follow the track". This is what I came up with.
Main + rail (Module In+) > Sensor 1 > Switched connector + rail (Module Out+) > Sensor 3 > Main - rail (same as Module In-)
Main - rail (Module In-) > Sensor 2 > Switched connector - rail (Module Out-) > Sensor 4 > Main + rail (same as Module In+)
Both the loop and wye shown in the module manuals are identical when looked at this way.
For my situation, the "switched connector" is a dead end spur until I get around to installing the second loop. Once the loop is complete, the second set of sensors, 1' through 4' will be piggy-backed on the originals using the same logic as above.
The module is working perfectly. The "Wye" lets me turn a train around without uncoupling and running the engine around the layout to connect the the other end to reverse direction.
Attached is a screenshot of my current CS3 trackboard.
Phil S.
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