LGB Transformers

[Boxcar]

Hi All, Need a bit of advice please, could any of you good people tell me what the difference is between lgb 50080 and 50084 transformers, I use the latter to run a single train no problem, would like to run a shuttle unit on a separate track and I have acquired a 50080 transformer but not sure if it can be used here in the uk as we are on 240v and the 50080 says 230v
I'm not to savvy with electrics so any advice would be appreciated
Thanks in advance

 

[PhilP]

We have not had 240V AC for a-g-e-s.....
Ever since we started importing electrickery from EU-rope.

You will be fine to use your 50080 here in the UK.

 

[Boxcar]

We have not had 240V AC for a-g-e-s.....
Ever since we started importing electrickery from EU-rope.

You will be fine to use your 50080 here in the UK.

Thanks for that Philp, I just wanted to be sure b4 I plugged in, I hate electric, been bit to often

 

[pugwash]

UK and EU are fine together, even locos and electrical lineside gear etc, but avoid US like the plague.

 

[dutchelm]

The 50084 has a 13A plug on it. The 50080 has a euro plug.

 

[Madman]

When did you guys quit the 240 volt thing ? What do you have now ?

 

[Zerogee]

Apparently we came in line with the rest of the EU quite a few years ago, moving to a nominal 230v - but I really don't think many people in the country even noticed.....
To all intents and purposes it is "close enough for government work", as they say..... anything designed for 240v is just fine on 230v and vice-versa, so it's really not affected anyone.

Jon.

 

[dutchelm]

It's the same electric, just a different name.

 

[PhilP]

...UK Government agreed to harmonization at 230V on 9th March 1993. UK voltage tolerances then changed: January 1995 - 216V - 253V January 2003 - 207V - 253V .

Though I am not too sure the 2003 lower figure of 207V was fully ratified??

I believe the rule that we have the correct number of 50Hz cycles in a 24 hour period was not relaxed..
Theoretically, mains-derived timed clocks would run faster, or slower, just before midnight, as adjustments were made to make sure we had the correct figure / 24 hours!

 

[JimmyB]

To expand on Phil Europe was 220 V and we were 240 V, and as stated above "harmony" was created in 1993, however post Brxit we will move back to 240 V

 

[Rhinochugger]

I believe the rule that we have the correct number of 50Hz cycles in a 24 hour period was not relaxed..

Now you got me going - somewhere in my feeble memory I seem to remember that ships run at 60Hz, and we had a Maudsley generator down at the harbour to convert the frequency

 

[ebay mike]

If we're going back to 240v will we have to pay extra for the increased voltage? I can visualize the power companies rubbing their hands with glee at making us pay through the nose for nothing!

 

[PhilP]

I doubt we will go back to 240V ???????????????
There are under-sea cables to EU-rope, so we can 'import' electricity..

 

[stockers]

We might leave but still trade 'leccy.

 

[Gizzy]

I think JimmyB's comment was just a wind up!

We will still have 230 V 50 Hz AC coming out of our sockets, despite Brexit.

Chuggy's comment about 60 Hz frequency 'resonates' here? It turns out the new Boeing kit arriving here next year is US 60 Hz, and this wasn't considered. So the MOD will have to purchase 3 Frequency Convertors.

Not cheap I expect....

 

[PhilP]

I think JimmyB's comment was just a wind up!

We will still have 230 V 50 Hz AC coming out of our sockets, despite Brexit.

Chuggy's comment about 60 Hz frequency 'resonates' here? It turns out the new Boeing kit arriving here next year is US 60 Hz, and this wasn't considered. So the MOD will have to purchase 3 Frequency Convertors.

Not cheap I expect....

I thought aircraft stuff had DC and AC on the same sockets, with the AC being at something like 440Hz? - Or is that just commercial stuff??

 

[Gizzy]

I thought aircraft stuff had DC and AC on the same sockets, with the AC being at something like 440Hz? - Or is that just commercial stuff??

You are correct Phil, we do have 400Hz Ac supplies on the real aircraft.

But the simulator will be run from a 3 phase supply and an invertor will convert the relevant supply from 50 Hz.

The problem is, that the US made machine is designed to run off 3 phase 60 Hz, and neither Boeing, nor the MOD, had considered this....

 

[PhilP]

The problem is, that the US made machine is designed to run off 3 phase 60 Hz, and neither Boeing, nor the MOD, had considered this....
I am guessing those who make these decisions are not techies?

 

[Gizzy]

The problem is, that the US made machine is designed to run off 3 phase 60 Hz, and neither Boeing, nor the MOD, had considered this....
I am guessing those who make these decisions are not techies?

I think at this point, I shall refer the Hon Gent to the 5th amendment....

 

[James Day]

Have you seen that you can get UK type converter plugs that enclose a whole Eurpean type plug and make good electrically sound connections.

These save having to cut the Euro Plug off and wire a 13a type on or using the rather horrid shaver type adaptors.

Many of my LGB transformers came from mainland EU and now have these converter plugs.

However in March 2019 I hear that were are going back to 15a round pin plugs made out Bakelite.......