LGB RhB coach 3063

[KeithT]

<p>Recently I bought one of these on ebay knowing that it needed the bogies replacing.</p><p>The ones fitted were obviously just a convenient ploy to make it look right as they are freight ones which don't even allow the couplings to project beyond the buffers!</p><p>I have been unable to identify the 3063 coach in my limited LGB catalogues but I wonder if anyone can confirm please that it was renumbered 30630. If that is the case then Herr Warenreich has the correct ones on offer at his online shop.</p><p>Does anyone know if he combines postage on items as the cost of postage for the bogies on their own is pretty offputting? </p>

 

[HBBahn]

The postage from Warenreich is the full whack for the first item, then 2EUR extra for each additional item. You can accumulate for quite a long time - I usually pay once a month

 

[KeithT]

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HBB - 28/11/2009 9:40 AM The postage from Warenreich is the full whack for the first item, then 2EUR extra for each additional item. You can accumulate for quite a long time - I usually pay once a month

</p><p>Thanks. That is very useful to know, he has such a fascinating miscellany of 'bits'. </p>

 

[stevelewis]

The 3063 coach was introduced by LGB back in the early 80s using the 3062 Austrian bogie coach body, to provide a fictitious RhB coach,, there was also a 2nd catno 3064 (all red ) I dont think they ever received a 5 digit code as the RhB coaches arrived later but the first few types also had the 4 digit codes.

The bogies are the same as the 3062 Austrial coaches, Although I have see examples of many of these caoches fitted with the same bogies as fitted to the 3070series DR/HSB bogies, why this should be I am not sure but they appesar to work satifactorily

I am not sure if the bogies from the Rugen coaches would work OK but that could be an option in they could be obtained inexpensively from anothers manufacturers similar coaches!!

 

[KeithT]

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stevelewis - 28/11/2009 7:24 PM The 3063 coach was introduced by LGB back in the early 80s using the 3062 Austrian bogie coach body, to provide a fictitious RhB coach,, there was also a 2nd catno 3064 (all red ) I dont think they ever received a 5 digit code as the RhB coaches arrived later but the first few types also had the 4 digit codes. The bogies are the same as the 3062 Austrial coaches, Although I have see examples of many of these caoches fitted with the same bogies as fitted to the 3070series DR/HSB bogies, why this should be I am not sure but they appesar to work satifactorily I am not sure if the bogies from the Rugen coaches would work OK but that could be an option in they could be obtained inexpensively from anothers manufacturers similar coaches!!

</p><p>The bogies I am looking at sre LGB67300 I <em>think</em> they are the correct ones</p>

 

[New Haven Neil]

stevelewis - 28/11/2009 7:24 PM

The 3063 coach was introduced by LGB back in the early 80s using the 3062 Austrian bogie coach body, to provide a fictitious RhB coach,, there was also a 2nd catno 3064 (all red ) snip<

Aren;t those numbers the other way around? All red was 3063, 3064 is red and cream??? Or is my memory finally defunct? I have the all red composite one in the garage.

 

[KeithT]

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New Haven Neil - 30/11/2009 12:07 PM

stevelewis - 28/11/2009 7:24 PM The 3063 coach was introduced by LGB back in the early 80s using the 3062 Austrian bogie coach body, to provide a fictitious RhB coach,, there was also a 2nd catno 3064 (all red ) snip<

Aren;t those numbers the other way around? All red was 3063, 3064 is red and cream??? Or is my memory finally defunct? I have the all red composite one in the garage.

</p><p> </p><p>I am sure you are correct at least, my 3063 is all red!</p>

 

[New Haven Neil]

It's in this train now I think about it......

 

[Doug]

My version of the coach appears to use the 30610 series trucks (packet of two is part no. 67300) The 30610 bogies have the loop for the couplings about 1/2" further out from the pivot point than the freight trucks.

 

[Doug]

Other LGB bogies available are: the freight truck (packet of two part no. 67402) and the DB trucks (packet of two part no. 67370)

 

[Philbahn]

I got both variants and they are shorter than the proper coaches by a good few inches

 

[Doug]

Have just checked the bogies on my coach - they are the 30610 trucks fitted - correct length to the coupling loop. THe loop is level with the face of the buffer.

 

[KeithT]

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Doug - 9/12/2009 7:08 PM My version of the coach appears to use the 30610 series trucks (packet of two is part no. 67300) The 30610 bogies have the loop for the couplings about 1/2" further out from the pivot point than the freight trucks.

</p><p> </p><p>Thank goodness for your confirmation.</p><p>Moments ago I got the 67300 pack on ebay. </p><p>Not cheap though. </p><p>Now I need a complete set of doors. </p>

 

[Doug]

Those are the correct ones!

 

[KeithT]

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Doug - 9/12/2009 7:43 PM Those are the correct ones!

</p><p>The ones fitted certainly were not!</p><p>I was aware when I bought it that they were not originals but I had hoped to be able to couple up with the next vehicle......</p>

 

[Doug]

Use those freight trucks for a scratch built wagon (or a kit built one):

 

[Spule 4]

All the sideframes interchange with the bolster/coupler.

I have put 307X sideframes on the 306X type cars using this method.

 

[KeithT]

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Doug - 9/12/2009 8:46 PM Use those freight trucks for a scratch built wagon (or a kit built one):

</p><p>That is what they are destined for - eventually, but I have a large backlog of "things to do". :thinking: </p>