LGB GRAPHITE PASTE & LGB TRAMS & StREETCARS

stevelewis

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HAs any one got any LGB Graphite Paste for sale??

Or know of a retailer with stock I have tried several retailers unsuccsessfully. I only require a small amount as the new line is not extensive (yet!!) The last tube I had lasted me around 5 years and I threw it out before it was empty thinking I would not need any more, how wrong can you be???

ALSO I am refreshing my requests for LGB Trams and USA Streetcars I have had some offers but no responses to my PMs yet!

So the door is still open!!
 
You can use Copaslip, available from Halfords and motor factors as a substitute..
Neither product is actually conductive, but keeps the air and moisture from tarnishing the metal to metal surfaces.
 
PhilP said:
You can use Copaslip, available from Halfords and motor factors as a substitute..
Neither product is actually conductive, but keeps the air and moisture from tarnishing the metal to metal surfaces.
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I used that years ago but never found it to be as effective and long lasting as the LGB product.

Re conductivity I tried the LGB Graphite paste for conductivity when it was first launched (in a TIN long before it came in tubes) passed 30 volts DC thro a blob of the stuff and got a ditinct dimming of a bulb which was in the circuit.

Must admit I dont know if it actually does make a difference or not, At my old address the Garden line which was in use for many years had approx 60% of the track laid before Graphite Paste was thought of, the rest on an extension was laid with the paste, i cannot say i ever noticed any difference in loco performance.
 
I've read with interest the various discussions and opinions about whether the graphite paste is actually conductive, and there is something that I've never seen mentioned..... while a "blob" of the paste straight from the tube may have little or no effective conductivity because the particles of graphite (which would conduct) are suspended in whatever paste medium is used (which presumably doesn't), could it be that once the paste is squeezed down to a micro-thin layer by being compressed between rail and rail joiner, then the graphite particles are squashed together sufficiently to achieve conductivity?

Just a thought....? ;)

Jon.
 
If it is to put in Rail Joints Halford's Copper Grease has done me proud and was recommended to me by someone who had used it for years themselves.
 
Apologies for my participation in the thread hi-jacking Steve! ;)

You mentioned having tried some retailers, but not which ones - have you tried Glendale, they normally have some tubes on the shelf? Or possibly SP Models at Snetterton....?

Jon.
 
Have you tried Chalk Rail Steve....

http://www.chalkgardenrail.co.uk/store/locomotives/powered-railcars
 
Yep Tried them all, The LGB product is now apparently discontinued, actually I have not seen it listed in any recent Markili/LGB catalogues.

Lets face it it wasnt exactly a volume seller, so it was probaly not generating much actual revenue for marklin.

I purchased it 3 times over many years, firstly in a small tin with a screw cap probably around 50 to 75ml that lasted years then i had the 2 tubes, one i gave away the other was around half used when i threw it out not realising that I would return to the garden.....silly me!! >:(
 
Not even knowing about any specific rail jointing pastes/compounds I just used coppaslip based on normal engineering principles. I filled all the track joiners then wiped off the ooze later. No problems so far with poor connections but I also gave all the connectors a squeeze with pliers to make sure they were a tight fit as the track was all pre-owned.
What I'd like to know is a good way of both hiding and protecting the power supply wires which are rubber sleeved multi strand stripped out of some rather old 3 core mains extension leads (black, red, green).
 
Andrew in Cheltenham (always my first call) has...

http://gardenrailwaycentres.info/shop/index.php?_a=product&product_id=3654
 
Dave500UK said:
What I'd like to know is a good way of both hiding and protecting the power supply wires which are rubber sleeved multi strand stripped out of some rather old 3 core mains extension leads (black, red, green).
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Probably need a little clarification as to how much cabling you are trying to hide/protect, where and why ? Will save a lot of redundant information. Second that on sourcing from Andrew at GRC. Seems Massoth have done a lot of LGB clone stuff to cover a lack of original product after original Co's failure. Max.
 
Dave500UK said:
What I'd like to know is a good way of both hiding and protecting the power supply wires which are rubber sleeved multi strand stripped out of some rather old 3 core mains extension leads (black, red, green).
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Rubber will perish out doors, so I would get cable with UVA/UVB resistant sheathing....
 
Railway42 said:
Mark at Garden Rail Outlet
Massoth 8319201
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Specifically, here:
http://www.gardenrailoutlet.co.uk/massoth-mm1-graphite-lubricant

Mark's website says he has it in stock.....

Jon.
 
Also available from Champex-Linden as part number CL51010. You can order this through Peter at Chalk Garden Rail.
 
Graphite grease 2207 is sold by no end of engineering suppliers in tubes or tins. It's absolutely amazing what a pretty print job and the letters LGB will do. Extreme pressure 2207 is "the" product and once bought in bulk and re packed can happily masquerade as almost anything, but at three times the price. However it doesn't change what the contents of the tubes/tins actually are. Amazon have the tubes and also 400grm tins of the stuff. I have three here in the workshop used mostly for large antenna arrays and mast housing bolts and fittings. Only better than high temperature white silicon grease by the simple fact that it washes off hands and tools a damn sight easier. Incidentally graphite grease is non conductive - we use it for assembling insulators to thick wall ally tube and then ram impressive powers through the system, which show no sign of the grease smeared fittings and insulators tracking any measurable voltage whatsoever across the antennas in any way.
 
Enginehouse said:
Graphite grease 2207 is sold by no end of engineering suppliers in tubes or tins. It's absolutely amazing what a pretty print job and the letters LGB will do.
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I think we might be getting to the bottom of this one. Might need a "sticky" for this and save the lot of us some money in the long run. And achieve longer runs ? Max
 
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