LGB 2017

Graham

Graham

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Just seen the new LGB catalogue for 2017 and there is a complete new Rio Grande Zephyr Train :inlove::inlove::inlove::inlove: but given an overall length of around 6 or 7 meters it would be way to big for the track I am laying not to mention probably having to mortgage the house to pay for it :eek:
 
wow, some wonderful items' do like revised Chloe, and think I will have to buy one.
I am most excited about the new US streamline offerings, now in DRGW. That is a set that I really like, but, as sagely observed, the US standard gauge offerings are simply huge compared to most other LGB.
I have wanted a baggage and diner, and, wonder if Marklin will offer these in the past LGB liveries, UP, PRR, NYC, SP. I would love to have the diner and baggage in SP Daylight to match my set.
 
Borrowed from the web. While they do not call it the Zephyr it looks pretty much like the one in the picture I have of No 5762 in a magazine :pdetails.html-page_Page_2.jpg
 
That looks like what I know as an 'F7' ??

Didn't Ford make a 'Zephyr'?? :giggle::giggle::giggle:
That was ?American? too, wasn't it? :rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
PhilP said:
That looks like what I know as an 'F7' ??

Didn't Ford make a 'Zephyr'?? :giggle::giggle::giggle:
That was ?American? too, wasn't it? :rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Yep the LGB one is an F7A and the one in my magazine is a F9A but they look very much the same the F7 is around 1949 and the F9 around 1954. I think it was the train that was called the Zephyr and not the Loco :yawn:

But I would still love one.....:blush:
 
This is the Zephyr (train that is)

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And this is the Ford Zephyr what I used to court Mrs Rhino :cool::cool::cool::cool:

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Nah, that's the Australian one.

But that's not a Zephyr - just a standard carbody US diesel of some desription

I think we're suffering from some mis-terminology (you got an ology?)

I found the LGB 2017 items on the Guagemaster website, and there certainly is a DRGW F7 A-B-A set, with carriages.

But they ain't Zephyrs

The D&RGW did run a train called the California Zephyr, and these items would make a reasonable representation of that train, but that's like saying Hornby make a Bournemouth Belle when they do a Merchant Navy class and some pullmans.
 
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To be sure Rhino - if it was an actual Zephyr, I am darned sure Marklin LGB would call it so.
 
I guess the F7 and the carriages was never called the Zephyr on the D&RGW given the dates it operated. But it is probably as near as LGB would get :D

"The Rio Grande Zephyr was a passenger train operated by Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad between Denver, Colorado and Ogden, Utah. It operated from 1970 until 1983. Wikipedia"

Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad's westbound RIO GRANDE ZEPHYR Train #17 runs between Rollinsville and Tolland, Colorado on the way up to Moffat Tunnel, October 10, 1981. It is powered, as usual, by, aguably, the most photographed locomotive in railroad history, D&RGW EMD F9 #5771, now on static display at Colorado Railroad Museum in Golden, Colorado.
Photo and comments by Chris Nuthall
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"Zephyr" was the title used by the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad (CB&Q - Burlington Route) for most of its diesel hauled express trains from the mid-30s. The first Burlington Zephyr was the Electromotive Corporation (later GM-EMD) articulated unit shown in Rhino's post (#11). The success of this unit led the Burlington to order more. However, the technology was developing so quickly that the articulated units were superseded in a couple of years by EMD E-units and more conventional, non-articulated coaches. They did retain the stainless steel finish.

The "California Zephyr" (CZ) was operated jointly by the Burlington, the Denver and Rio Grande Western, and the Western Pacific to link Chicago and San Francisco (Oakland). Unlike Union Pacific and Santa Fe the lines that operated the CZ didn't have their own routes spanning all the way from Chicago to the coast. The CZ began running in 1949, and like other Zephyrs was characterised by its stainless steel coaches. By the 1950s the Denver and Rio Grande portion was hauled by GM-EMD F-units like those announced by LGB. However, the coaches announced by LGB are not CZ coaches as they are smooth-sided Pullman-Standard lightweight cars, rather than the characteristic Budd corrugated stainless steel cars used on the Zephyr. The train set as presented by LGB more closely resembles the D&RGW "Prospector".
 
How many rivets did they have?
;):p;):giggle::giggle::giggle:

Think I'll stick to mis-representing the Harz, and assorted British and European stock!
 
Now that we've established that LGB are bring out a very attractive Rio Grande F7 A-B-A unit and lots of suitable coaches................

Perhaps we can talk a bit more about courting in the Ford Zephyr - the one in the picture being carefully selected as a Zephyr 4 (4 cylinder 1703cc) into which I dropped a Zodiac engine (6 cylinder 2553cc) with a consecutive twin choke carburetor from a Ford 3 litre V6, and then added some monster 14" wheels at the back with Uniroyal Tiger Paw tyres, and low profile F100s on the front :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

The real beauty of the car was the bench seat in the front (with column shift) so, on our way home, we could cuddle up, I worked the clutch while she changed the gears :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
 
Brings to mind my earlier days when I was just as broke as now . Trying to buy second hand cars for goin' 'ome at weekenz , got put off some possibilities by a poem current at the time .
"Can't even afford a Ford , a Ford , four wheels and a board"
Only ever drove the RAF ones , didn't like them either .
I did , however , get a Humber Pullman for forty quid , and it paid for itself and petrol by giving lifts to other home loving chaps .
And if you want to get back to trains , I used to get The Pines Express every Sunday night , New Street up to York , change for Thirsk and dash like mad to catch the only taxi . Which at 0230 filled up with about nine or ten RAF blokes whilst the local fuzz looked the other way .
My current wagon , a Jeep Grand Cherokee is also train connected , I have some pics of it on a personal , hooked up at the rear of the train , four wheel flat of Furka Oberalp persuasion when stumped by snow blocking our intended route into Andermatt . It cost less than the petrol would have , even though they shunted a special wagon on for us .
I have had several cars , most of them bought due to the abominable places the RAF grew airfields in .
But I will grant that the RAF also took me to 40 different countries for free (I stopped counting at 40 countries cuz I am no gud at maffs )
 
mikanmart said:
Brings to mind my earlier days when I was just as broke as now . Trying to buy second hand cars for goin' 'ome at weekenz , got put off some possibilities by a poem current at the time .
"Can't even afford a Ford , a Ford , four wheels and a board"
Only ever drove the RAF ones , didn't like them either .
I did , however , get a Humber Pullman for forty quid , and it paid for itself and petrol by giving lifts to other home loving chaps .
And if you want to get back to trains , I used to get The Pines Express every Sunday night , New Street up to York , change for Thirsk and dash like mad to catch the only taxi . Which at 0230 filled up with about nine or ten RAF blokes whilst the local fuzz looked the other way .
My current wagon , a Jeep Grand Cherokee is also train connected , I have some pics of it on a personal , hooked up at the rear of the train , four wheel flat of Furka Oberalp persuasion when stumped by snow blocking our intended route into Andermatt . It cost less than the petrol would have , even though they shunted a special wagon on for us .
I have had several cars , most of them bought due to the abominable places the RAF grew airfields in .
But I will grant that the RAF also took me to 40 different countries for free (I stopped counting at 40 countries cuz I am no gud at maffs )
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-- and the rest of the couplet "Guranteed to go if you push it"!
 
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