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[ge_rik]

Well it plainly says "Do not remove this lable"

sorry, should have said - Heven fawfend!

Rik

 

[PhilP]

I didn't spell it, read the lable! :

I know Bob.. But, we must keep up our standards of spolling on the Forem..

 

[dunnyrail]

Would be good to see if anyone else has bashed them.
Rik

Well Rik, Andy Rush of Ruschbahn fame bashed some into Swiss Coaches. Not wishing to hijack this thread so here is a link where you will see some of those conversions:-

https://www.flickr.com/photos/train-pix/sets/72157634846800291/

The top Middle Picture shows 3 just after the Blue Pullman Car.
JonD

 

[ge_rik]

[quote author=oberinntalbahn link=topic=300018.msg335889#msg335889 date=1418414501]
Thanks Rik, I think we might have a Wyvale somewhere round here  :-
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Nigel
The packs are only 2.5" x 4.5" and so tend to be tucked away. They have them in a variety of colours (blue, bright white, red etc) and some have little stars moulded on so it`s worth checking what`s in the box before you buy.



Sorry not easy to snap a shiny pack under artificial light

Rik

 

[ge_rik]

Well Rik, Andy Rush of Ruschbahn fame bashed some into Swiss Coaches. Not wishing to hijack this thread so here is a link where you will see some of those conversions:-

https://www.flickr.com/photos/train-pix/9394687047/in/set-72157634846800291/

The top Middle Picture shows 3 just after the Blue Pullman Car.
JonD

Thanks Jon
Not hijacking at all - it's relevant to the thread title and I'm certainly more than interested to see what others have done. Looks like this photo shows some of the bashed (they look far too sophisticated to be called bashes) conversions (hoping this will show just one picture from the set).

https://www.flickr.com/photos/train-pix/9394687047/in/set-72157634846800291/

I seem to recall that this wonderful layout has now been dismantled - I seem to recall that it was a marvelous sight and run very much to prototype.

Rik

 

[dunnyrail]

I seem to recall that this wonderful layout has now been dismantled
Rik

Sadly Rik the above statement is all too true now. But at least the Coach Conversions are in East Anglia with the man who bought them from Glendale. He also bought much, if not all of the Stock from Giles Barnaby. Both of which have appeared on here..
JonD

 

[ge_rik]

It`s over a month since I posted anything about this build, but I`m beginning to see light at the end of the tunnel for the remaining two coach bashes.

Just a reminder - this is the more or less finished open coach (as detailed previously) ......

Still needs its interior fitted-out which is why they roof isn`t yet glued into place.

Here`s where I`m up to with its sister coach.

The underframe still needs to be completed (and painted) and an interior fitted - hence the roof is not yet fixed down

And here`s where I`m up to with the brake end

As you can see, the guard`s/luggage compartment needs glazing and it needs its underframe and interior completing. This is what has been taking up a lot of the time - a lot more fiddly than the open coaches.

And here`s what they look like as a rake



They`re by no means perfect - but they do have an air of Leek & Manifold about them. And what is more, I know they will negotiate the tight curves on my railway.

Rik

 

[PhilP]

I was going to ask about curves.. That brake looks very l o n g.. Or is it more to do with the camera-lens?

 

[ge_rik]

I was going to ask about curves.. That brake looks very l o n g.. Or is it more to do with the camera-lens?

Hi Phil
No, exactly the same length as the other two coaches, though the balcony has been filled in so I suppose it gives the illusion of being longer.

Rik

 

[PhilP]

Thanks Rik.. Had to go back through the whole thread to get it into my head.. :
Definitely that photo to blame! - My story and sticking to it!

Now even more impressed.

 

[ge_rik]

Thanks Rik.. Had to go back through the whole thread to get it into my head.. :
Definitely that photo to blame! - My story and sticking to it!

Now even more impressed.

I see what you mean. In the fourth photo the brake definitely does look longer, then in the fifth photo the coach nearest the camera looks longer. I have noticed with my little compact camera that if I put it on its widest zoom setting then there is a noticeable fisheye effect. When taking a picture along a train for example, I end up editing the image to get the middle coach or wagon looking about upright and then it looks like the nearest is canted away from the camera and the furthest is canted towards the camera.

Rik

 

[garrymartin]

A super job, they make a lovely rake of coaches.

 

[ge_rik]

A super job, they make a lovely rake of coaches.

Thanks Garry. Hoping to get some video as soon as they are finished externally. I want to spend a bit of time on the interiors so will leave that until I've got a few more of the urgent jobs jobs ticked-off on the todo list.

Rik

 

[Riograndad]

Great rake of coaches,great bash looking forward to the vid when interiors are done

 

[ge_rik]

Managed to get the exteriors finished off today. They all now have `riveted` underframes and headstocks. May fit some cosmetic buffers when I get around to detailing the interiors.

Here`s all three


This is the first one I completed. It has a raised ridge on the roof and the steps are flush with the coach body.


Here`s the second open. No raised ridge and the steps are away from the body. Whereas the first coach had hand-drawn stained glass toplights I did them on the computer for the last two coaches (I live and learn).


And here`s the brake end.



As promised, I videoed their test run. It was beginning to get dark towards the end - but I think you can get a feel for how they run - including raking a couple of my sharp curves.

http://youtu.be/6DgshtOSbJ4

Rik

 

[JRinTawa]

Great stuff Rik, hard to believe what they started out as

 

[gregh]

Managed to get the exteriors finished off today. They all now have 'riveted' underframes and headstocks. May fit some cosmetic buffers when I get around to detailing the interiors.

Rik

What a great looking train. Beaut work. Clearance under that bridge looked pretty tight!
Does that brake van have to be turned at the terminius so that the little cabin is at the end?

 

[ge_rik]

[quote author=gregh link=topic=300018.msg342354#msg342354 date=1422760315]
What a great looking train. Beaut work.  Clearance under that bridge looked pretty tight!
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Thanks Greg. Of course, the dimensions were carefully planned -    :

The test run was a bit of a voyage of discovery. I`d extended the bodies a bit and when I took the sharp curve by Bickerton Station I found the corners of the roofs just touched each other - another couple of mm and they would have ended up levering the neighbouring coach off the track. I`ve not tried them round the R1s by the copper mine yet ...... might prove interesting  ???  Even more incentive to replace them methinks!

[quote author=gregh link=topic=300018.msg342354#msg342354 date=1422760315]
Does that brake van have to be turned at the terminus so that the little cabin is at the end?
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They didn`t turn the coaches on the L&M and so I reckon it`s OK to run the brake `in reverse`.

[size=8pt]Source: Science Museum Group: Collections Online - http://collectionsonline.nmsi.ac.uk/detail.php?type=related&kv=226843&t=objects[/size]

Rik
Edit: PS Just noticed the loco and the brake ran opposite ways round to each other. Must remember that when I next put them out on the line.

 

[KandNWLR]

I like these a lot Some good Inspiration for scratchbuilding / kitbashing here

 

[ge_rik]

I like these a lot Some good Inspiration for scratchbuilding / kitbashing here

Thanks Andrew
I'm sure someone with more expertise could do a really good job. I'm intending to do a warts-and-all article on my blog which I hope will guide anyone else intending to have a bash themselves. Hopefully, they will learn from my mistakes.

Very nice indeed Rik, to me a full rake always looks so much better than an individual vehicle

I've always fancied having two rakes of coaches (though may need to build some carriage sidings to house them) so I can run two passenger services on market days and when there are excursions. Although this is probably a bit ambitious for such a small railway in the 1930s, I'm working on the assumption that whereas other railways such as the Southwold (which closed in 1929) and the L&M (which closed in 1934) struggled for traffic in the Depression, the Peckforton Railway managed to soldier-on by buying up closed lines' rolling stock on the cheap.

May have to set my railway in 1935-6 rather than 1932 now, though.

Rik