Is it me, the seller, ebay or doesn't it matter (i.e. is life too short)?

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Sarah Winfield

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This is a message about ebay and nothing to do with railways.

I won a set of carpet bowls as described in the listing and also on the box. When they arrived they were in fact mini-bowls at 2" dia.

I've been having running correspondence with the seller who is reticent about me returning them.

English Carpet Bowls Association rules say the bowls should be 3.7/8" dia.

There was no way for me to gauge the diameter of the bowls I was bidding on.

SW
 
PhilP

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If the Seller won't play..
Then eBay complaints procedure always favours the purchaser.. - Not as described, no use to you.
 
Greg Elmassian

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Wow, had to look this up... so bowls in this case are balls.... I guess that makes more sense for family sports calling it bowling as opposed to using the other word.

interesting ... what you got was closer to the size of the jack which should be 2.5".... are they indeed just 2"?

I have not found any information for a "Standard" with smaller bowls...

Greg
 
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Sarah Winfield

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Personally I think the very small bowls are sold as a gimmick or souvenir.

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GAP

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Wow, had to look this up... so bowls in this case are balls.... I guess that makes more sense for family sports calling it bowling as opposed to using the other word.

interesting ... what you got was closer to the size of the jack which should be 2.5".... are they indeed just 2"?

I have not found any information for a "Standard" with smaller bowls...

Greg
Greg,

I have had to educated a number of American workmates in the difference between bowls and bowling ie ten pin we even got one to start playing it.

Lawn bowls is a game of etiquette, finesse and precision, all within a fun and no contact competitive environment. Although if you get into the more serious competitions you had better have the deeds to your sheep station with you. :) :) :)
There is a large number international professional players (mostly from Commonwealth countries) with the current world champion being a Scotsman who is a nice bloke.

Bowls are not actually balls they are not spherical, they are shaped to have what is known as a bias that so they do not run straight but travel in an arc. The only spherical object in a game of bowls id the jack or kitty which is the little white ball which getting your bowl closest to is the object of the game.

Lawn bowls come in different diameters designated by a number size 00 being smallest to size 5 being the largest I have seen and also different weights eg mine are heavy weights.

Carpet bowls are a smaller version of lawn bowls.

This explains bowls fairly well even though it is mostly about indoor/carpet bowls.
For Sarah it does have dimensions for the smaller bowls.
BBC Sport - Bowls - Beginner's guide to bowls
 
GAP

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This is a message about ebay and nothing to do with railways.

I won a set of carpet bowls as described in the listing and also on the box. When they arrived they were in fact mini-bowls at 2" dia.

I've been having running correspondence with the seller who is reticent about me returning them.

English Carpet Bowls Association rules say the bowls should be 3.7/8" dia.

There was no way for me to gauge the diameter of the bowls I was bidding on.

SW

Sarah looks like you have a set of "Table Bowls"
The Sport of Bowls - Table Bowls
 
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Sarah Winfield

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Thanks for the explanation.

The bowls I bought, and have now returned, were identified as "Carpet bowls" although they are closer in size to "Table bowls".

Personally I think they are sold purely as a gimmick and sell because they look like Drakes bowls.

The bowls we use for our "competitive" carpet bowls are 3.7/8" dia. and in accordance with the rules of the ECBA.

Amazing what you find out on this forum.

Perhaps there should be a subject heading, "Anything of interest not to do with G scale" or "What happened on this day previously"?

SW
 
Zerogee

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I thought that was to do with the cut of a gentleman's trousers? :eek::tmi:
:giggle::giggle:
"Do you have the Scrolls?"
"No, it's just the way my trousers hang....."

(I think that may a be a slight misquoting of some classic Eric & Ern, but what the heck?)

Jon.
 
Zerogee

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.......... designated by a number size 00 being smallest to size 5 being the largest.........
Are we back to the Scale and Gauge discussions again....? :rofl:

Jon.
 
Rhinochugger

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Are we back to the Scale and Gauge discussions again....? :rofl:

Jon.
There is also a size 6 - difficult to obtain, but I have a set.

Then there is the subject of bias - nothing at all to do with how you power your locos :devil::devil::devil::devil:
 
GAP

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There is also a size 6 - difficult to obtain, but I have a set.

Then there is the subject of bias - nothing at all to do with how you power your locos :devil::devil::devil::devil:
Size 6 now that is a fairly large bowl, not effected by the wind much then?

I think bowls is second only to golf in the frustration stakes.
 
Gavin Sowry

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I think bowls is second only to golf in the frustration stakes.
I have absolutely no frustration with Golf.... it is one 'sport' I have no time for, either playing, or on telly.
Talking sport, 'tis the last Saturday in September. Collingwood, Go the Pies ! Until kick off, I'll be playing trains.
 
Rhinochugger

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Size 6 now that is a fairly large bowl, not effected by the wind much then?

I think bowls is second only to golf in the frustration stakes.
Not indoors, no :devil::devil::devil:
 
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It looks as if the situation has resolved itself but not before the seller referred me to ebay.

Hopefully my outlay has been credited apart from the return postage.

I think this topic can now be closed.

SW
 
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Gavin Sowry

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Talking sport, 'tis the last Saturday in September. Collingwood, Go the Pies ! Until kick off, I'll be playing trains.
Woops, how sad, never mind, good game. Mind you, I was a bob each way, in my playing days I wore an Eagles guernsey, in fact scored the first goal for that newly combined team in our local competition. I thing Gap would be one of the few people that actually know what I am blethering about.
 
voodoopenguin

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I thing Gap would be one of the few people that actually know what I am blethering about.
In the wilds of Norfolk here in the UK I knew what you were on about but only because of this.

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