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Just obtained a battery power loco and power wagon on stripping it down I have dislodged a wire, but I can't identify the unit can any one help please with hopefully a name or better still a wiring diagram
 

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Timpdon Electronics, now owned by Fosworks....
 
Gizzy said:
Timpdon Electronics, now owned by Fosworks....
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Thats what I thought but when i sent the photo to them they replied that they could not help and could not identify the unit
 
What do you want to achieve?

The disconnected wire is the positive battery power input to the MyLocoSound card.. - Connect it to battery positive.

The 'black box' is a Timpdon Ultrarad unit..

PhilP.
 
PhilP said:
What do you want to achieve?

The disconnected wire is the positive battery power input to the MyLocoSound card.. - Connect it to battery positive.

The 'black box' is a Timpdon Ultrarad unit..

PhilP.
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It was the red wire you dislodged?
 
PhilP said:
What do you want to achieve?

The disconnected wire is the positive battery power input to the MyLocoSound card.. - Connect it to battery positive.

The 'black box' is a Timpdon Ultrarad unit..

PhilP.
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I am trying to find out which unit it is. ie what voltage input does it use is it a URC11 l 7 to 15 volt or a URC11 H 12 to 24 volt and also what the terminals at the end are as I cant read them Aux 2, Aux 1, O V, ?, ?. ?.
 
granddad gnome said:
I am trying to find out which unit it is. ie what voltage input does it use is it a URC11 l 7 to 15 volt or a URC11 H 12 to 24 volt and also what the terminals at the end are as I cant read them Aux 2, Aux 1, O V, ?, ?. ?.
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Can't help with which model, but does it matter? - Are you wanting to use more than a 15V supply?
Connections (as viewed):
Aux. 2
Aux. 1
0V. negative battery supply
Motor
Motor
Positive battery supply

HTH?
PhilP.
 
granddad gnome said:
I am trying to find out which unit it is. ie what voltage input does it use is it a URC11 l 7 to 15 volt or a URC11 H 12 to 24 volt and also what the terminals at the end are as I cant read them Aux 2, Aux 1, O V, ?, ?. ?.
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I see your problem, the live wire still connected to the Sound Card (a My Loco Sound one) that has come detached from what appears to be the speed controller which is a Timpden one. Though I have a Timpden setup here
it is all wrapped in heat shrink so cannot see the terminals. I am not sure if it is the same as your one either.

Looking at where the black wire goes to (Auxilliary 1?) it may be that the red one goes to Auxiliary 0. However it may be best to do a picture of the other side and include the other bit of the system that is misisng from your picture top right so that we can be sure.
 
PhilP said:
Can't help with which model, but does it matter? - Are you wanting to use more than a 15V supply?
Connections (as viewed):
Aux. 2
Aux. 1
0V. negative battery supply
Motor
Motor
Positive battery supply

HTH?
PhilP.
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Thanks Philp This is every helpful, I am concerned that if I put in the wrong voltage in it may damage the unit. not enough wont hurt I think but will too much damage it. my other battery locos run on 18 volts
 
granddad gnome said:
my other battery locos run on 18 volts
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18V is 15 NiMH (1.2V) cells..

Guessing you are more likely to be running on either 14 cells (16.8V) or 16 cells (19.2V)?
As a 'good' fully-charged NiMH cell can be 1.5V, these could be (up to) 21V or 24V respectively..

If you were to fit a 12-cell battery pack, you would be fairly safe. Depending on the charger you use, it may well cope with the difference, and a 12-cell pack may well give you an adequate top-speed for the loco concerned.

I have not 'laid-bare' a TImpdon unit, so am not able to comment on how much headroom there is on the smaller unit.
Perhaps an email to TImpdon (if Graham is still connected with the business) could ascertain if there is a visible physical difference between the two units? - Explain the label has been obliterated in use.

PhilP.
 
PhilP said:
18V is 15 NiMH (1.2V) cells..

Guessing you are more likely to be running on either 14 cells (16.8V) or 16 cells (19.2V)?
As a 'good' fully-charged NiMH cell can be 1.5V, these could be (up to) 21V or 24V respectively..

If you were to fit a 12-cell battery pack, you would be fairly safe. Depending on the charger you use, it may well cope with the difference, and a 12-cell pack may well give you an adequate top-speed for the loco concerned.

I have not 'laid-bare' a TImpdon unit, so am not able to comment on how much headroom there is on the smaller unit.
Perhaps an email to TImpdon (if Graham is still connected with the business) could ascertain if there is a visible physical difference between the two units? - Explain the label has been obliterated in use.

PhilP.
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Yes you are right I run on a 14 cell battery pack and have never had a problem Thank you so much for all your help and advice. What a great hobby to be in with so many helpful people willing to share there knowledge.
 
granddad gnome said:
Yes you are right I run on a 14 cell battery pack and have never had a problem Thank you so much for all your help and advice. What a great hobby to be in with so many helpful people willing to share there knowledge.
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:blush:

You are welcome!
Personally, I think you would probably be OK??? - A 14-cell pack being referred-to as a "16.8V" battery pack, and the specification being 'up-to' 17V.
Timpdon might confirm this for you?

PhilP.
 
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