Chris Vernell
Three score and nineteen
Surely not personal experience?
How to build a elevated "deck" layout
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FatherMcD
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Of course not! He just happened to be there when it happened on someone else's railway, and, being a proper gentlemen, is not going to identify the other party.Surely not personal experience?
GAP
G Scale Model Trains, 1:1 Sugar Cane Trains
Totally agree Phil from past and present experience putting adjustable feel straight onto gravel or soil will necessitate constant adjustment as they will sink.
I used large concrete paving tiles sitting on the earth that I compacted to give a firm base.
Oh no did you have a high crash….. ?
Yes I’ve been thinking of guide wires to stop a fall I could use bottle screws and wires to keep it thin xxx
stevedenver
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Yes. During a lengthy remodel years back, my garden rr wasn’t running. So, i made a temporary, tiny 5x9 frr (R1) in the basement.
Occasionally, id run a stainz or forney. Long story shortened, cars can derail. If rail is close to the edge, they can topple off. All it takes, among many things, imho, is a slight rail gap. Had this happen to a forney. 3 ft down to concrete! Broke the outside frame rod cranks, nothing else, ….not much, really, but a real bummer.
Luckily for me, this was at a time that lgb parts were cheap and readily available from lgb.imho, not so simple, nor affordable anymore. Thus, my unsolicited, but well meaning, suggestion. I hate broken toys.lol
I do like the idea of wires. Ive seen these on other layouts, possibly in old LGB catalogs. They are less obtrusive and seem effective, so long as they are high and stout enough. Not giving it much thought, but a good quality elastic might be good too. Gentler regarding abrasions, possibly. Perhaps appropriate eye hook screws/?
Occasionally, id run a stainz or forney. Long story shortened, cars can derail. If rail is close to the edge, they can topple off. All it takes, among many things, imho, is a slight rail gap. Had this happen to a forney. 3 ft down to concrete! Broke the outside frame rod cranks, nothing else, ….not much, really, but a real bummer.
Luckily for me, this was at a time that lgb parts were cheap and readily available from lgb.imho, not so simple, nor affordable anymore. Thus, my unsolicited, but well meaning, suggestion. I hate broken toys.lol
I do like the idea of wires. Ive seen these on other layouts, possibly in old LGB catalogs. They are less obtrusive and seem effective, so long as they are high and stout enough. Not giving it much thought, but a good quality elastic might be good too. Gentler regarding abrasions, possibly. Perhaps appropriate eye hook screws/?
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POLO_Train
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Well after completing two other projects that I needed to get done, I was finally able to start building the layout inside storage yard.
I did a quick design:
The trains will exit through the house where the wider insulation between the boards. I hope it will fit through! haha.
It turns out there is not a comfortable amount of clearance for the large passenger cars on the back curve section.
Also, I am going to add some 1.5" spacers between the wall and decking so that they don't get too close the concrete wall.
So I will try to update the track soon and finish adding the two remaining triangle support pieces, but after I have to clean up the mess in the other room so that the wife is happy.
I did a quick design:
The trains will exit through the house where the wider insulation between the boards. I hope it will fit through! haha.
It turns out there is not a comfortable amount of clearance for the large passenger cars on the back curve section.
Also, I am going to add some 1.5" spacers between the wall and decking so that they don't get too close the concrete wall.
So I will try to update the track soon and finish adding the two remaining triangle support pieces, but after I have to clean up the mess in the other room so that the wife is happy.
FatherMcD
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Concrete walls can be a little rough on rolling stock. My track planning software doesn't seem to automatically allow for overhang of long rolling stock. Looking back at your outdoor plan, which I'm assuming is still in the planning stages, you might consider a suggestion I made to DianeTape in her rebuild. https://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/blassen-hugel-gartenbahn.322788/post-766720. JimmyB shows how he did it in his Tumble Down Falls after my post. (I may have gotten the idea from him in the first place.
) I've included a suggestion just for the lower left part of your plan. You show all set track, and I cheated a bit by using flex. Aristo Craft doesn't seem to make partial curves in the 20' diameter, at least not in my planning software.
My apologies for the links. I think there is a better way to embed them that I haven't discovered yet.
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POLO_Train
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Concrete walls can be a little rough on rolling stock. My track planning software doesn't seem to automatically allow for overhang of long rolling stock. Looking back at your outdoor plan, which I'm assuming is still in the planning stages, you might consider a suggestion I made to DianeTape in her rebuild. https://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/blassen-hugel-gartenbahn.322788/post-766720. JimmyB shows how he did it in his Tumble Down Falls after my post. (I may have gotten the idea from him in the first place.
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My apologies for the links. I think there is a better way to embed them that I haven't discovered yet.
It is a rough draft to make sure I have enough pieces of track for the full loop.
Thanks of the suggestion!
I do wish to try that example to get the most space available for my glacier express train. I believe it is little over 14' long with the engine and six panorama cars. I did run into the same problem with the cad software not cooperating well when I was trying to draft up the siding.
I did buy all my aristo/USA trains track used so I am not sure if I have the special curve piece or not.
I do need to get a rail bender so that I can adjust or bend some new pieces into position. I should get that sooner than later, haha.
POLO_Train
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I was able to get a bit of time to put in the 1-1/2" spacers on the back of the decks and redo the track.
The new yard still allows for the full glacier express cars:
But it was still too close for the end point:
A little change in CAD and it worked out well:
And the clearance is good:
The new yard still allows for the full glacier express cars:
But it was still too close for the end point:
A little change in CAD and it worked out well:
And the clearance is good:
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POLO_Train
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After a few weeks of travel, I finally found some time to get back to building the storage yard.
I was able to get all the switches and uncouplers wired up, as well as the lights!
I am trying to figure out what kid of shelving slash wall mount structure to put above that I can park the rest of my rolling stock.
I am leaning towards some kind of shelf standing metal shelving unit, so that I do not have to drill into the concrete wall. I am not sure what to do. I only want the shelving to be one track deep so that it does over crowd the storage yard.
What would you add to store the rest of the rolling stock above the yard?
I still need to finish cutting some boards and tidying up the cables, but it is almost done in time for me to start the outside track!
I hope you enjoy them!
I realized right then that I need to add lighting to the baggage car, Ha.
And the bench work, I think I am going to keep all the interior switches manual with switch boxes.
I was able to get all the switches and uncouplers wired up, as well as the lights!
I am trying to figure out what kid of shelving slash wall mount structure to put above that I can park the rest of my rolling stock.
I am leaning towards some kind of shelf standing metal shelving unit, so that I do not have to drill into the concrete wall. I am not sure what to do. I only want the shelving to be one track deep so that it does over crowd the storage yard.
What would you add to store the rest of the rolling stock above the yard?
I still need to finish cutting some boards and tidying up the cables, but it is almost done in time for me to start the outside track!
I hope you enjoy them!
I realized right then that I need to add lighting to the baggage car, Ha.
And the bench work, I think I am going to keep all the interior switches manual with switch boxes.
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grizzmo
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Looking very good, I am very envious of the fleet you have. The lights look fantastic.
Hm we do not see what is above the line very clearly, in tyenfirst pic there is a tantalising look at what may be wood upper floor joists? If so you could hang down from these with 2x1 inch timber to make a 6or 9 inch shelf to store your stock. The metal free standing units are likely to be as wide as your boards detracting from the layout look a lot.
POLO_Train
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Ahh, thanks, that would work well.
There are engineered joists above the yard.
I could hang some metal shelving uprights and attach some Railrax to hold the extra cars.
I have been wanting to try this type of shelving:
Good, link dord not work for UK but sure you could adapt for your needs.