Help needed for scale to mm

tac foley

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I guess that your suppositions are based on the DCMT 'Lone Star' products stuff of the late '50's...........

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PhilP

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Interesting..

More brand names to research..

What get's me...
Doesn't seem to matter the scale..
A good-quality model of a loco, comes out at about the same price! :eek::nod::nod:
 
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I guess that your suppositions are based on the DCMT 'Lone Star' products stuff of the late '50's...........

 
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I guess that your suppositions are based on the DCMT 'Lone Star' products stuff of the late '50's...........

Those models were very crude - driven by four rubber bands from the motor shaft that extended the length of the body, running down to 'fat' plastic axles. Gearing was a bit high and slow running was off the menu :eek:
 
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[QUOTE="PhilP, post: 567341]What get's me...Doesn't seem to matter the scale.A good-quality model of a loco, comes out at about the same price! :eek::nod::nod:
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A bit of a generalisation but I get what you are saying. Exceptions that "disprove" that rule, available now - RTR 009/4 mm scale L&B Manning Wardell c £160, 16 mm scale (GRS track powered with allowance for build & paint cost) c £800. Both out of production - 009 NG/G16 c £750 + (a good well built one), Accucraft 16 mm live steamer c £4000 + - I'm cheating a bit on that one but an track powered LGB/Aster NG/G13 is not far behind.

What does surprise me is the cost of 16/15 mm live steamers in comparison to their 3.5", 5"& 7.25" counterparts. More bangs for your bucks in reletive terms with the "sit on and ride" stuff it would appear to be the case. But perhaps more associated running cost to balance that. Max
 
PhilP

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The specific example I was thinking of..
A "Whizzy-cranks"..

At the time you could pick up an older LGB model for £135.. Similar price for one in N..
 
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What does surprise me is the cost of 16/15 mm live steamers in comparison to their 3.5", 5"& 7.25" counterparts. More bangs for your bucks in reletive terms with the "sit on and ride" stuff it would appear to be the case. But perhaps more associated running cost to balance that. Max
On the downside, I'd dearly like to see you put a 5" gauge 'Yeo' in it its Loco-box and cart it around....................and a 5" gauge 9F can be yours for just £12,500.
 
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On the downside, I'd dearly like to see you put a 5" gauge 'Yeo' in it its Loco-box and cart it around....................and a 5" gauge 9F can be yours for just £12,500.
I seem to remember that the Lone Star locos that you showed sold for less than £2 - Lone Star made one steam loco, a US outline 0-8-0 tender loco with the drive in the bogie tender using the same mechanism that the diesels used, and I believe I bought one for 45 shillings - £2 - 25p in decimal money :emo::emo:
 
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N/16mm? Depends on your eyesight!
 
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Here is my 7 1/4" gauge model of a 2ft gauge prototype - feel free to work out what scale that is....

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Approximatively about, more or less. :)
 
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Indeed. 'twas ever thus.
 
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Yes, I bought a 1:16 tractor, but it's a bit large, even for my 1:20.3 railway - so it sits by the side of the track out in the boondocks.

There is a range of modern earth moving equipment at 1:"25 :think::think:
Thank you all for your replies . its taken me a while to get used to this site, but think I am ok now.. I have tried most sizes and come to the conclusion that 1.24 to 1.26 scale is best for me as my 5 locos are only 0.4.0 and 9 inches long. Had a change of mind about the centre of the field on the layout which was going to be a farming rally field with the locos running round [ or half round ] track with a siding off it. Do I need to enter a new thread on this site to find out about lighting with old fashion street lights for the field [ about 8 or so would be ok ].I have 4 electric scooter 12 volt batteries and hoping to use one of them for lighting , Is this possible ??. Thanks again lads , great site with nice people. Alan 851/2 years old now
 
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Alan 851/2 years old now
Ah!
Back to short-trousers then? ;)

Yes, a small 12V lead-acid battery will be fine, and if you use LED's it will run the lights for a-g-e-s.. :)
 
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Thank you all for your replies . its taken me a while to get used to this site, but think I am ok now.. I have tried most sizes and come to the conclusion that 1.24 to 1.26 scale is best for me as my 5 locos are only 0.4.0 and 9 inches long. Had a change of mind about the centre of the field on the layout which was going to be a farming rally field with the locos running round [ or half round ] track with a siding off it. Do I need to enter a new thread on this site to find out about lighting with old fashion street lights for the field [ about 8 or so would be ok ].I have 4 electric scooter 12 volt batteries and hoping to use one of them for lighting , Is this possible ??. Thanks again lads , great site with nice people. Alan 851/2 years old now
Yeah, the humour on this site takes a bit of getting used to - but once you're there :D:D:D:D:D


Oh, and you can also learn some useful stuff - sometimes >:)>:)>:)>:)
 
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Any minute now somebody will post that VERY useful side-by-side graphic of the various scales. It won't be me though - the originator will have to do it.

Going from the sublime to the Gor blimey, here is an Atlas H0 GP38[2] - that's 1/87th scale - standing in front of an Aristocraft 1/29th scale version -

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Math 101. 3 x 29 = 87
 
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Thank you all for your replies . its taken me a while to get used to this site, but think I am ok now.. I have tried most sizes and come to the conclusion that 1.24 to 1.26 scale is best for me as my 5 locos are only 0.4.0 and 9 inches long. Had a change of mind about the centre of the field on the layout which was going to be a farming rally field with the locos running round [ or half round ] track with a siding off it. Do I need to enter a new thread on this site to find out about lighting with old fashion street lights for the field [ about 8 or so would be ok ].I have 4 electric scooter 12 volt batteries and hoping to use one of them for lighting , Is this possible ??. Thanks again lads , great site with nice people. Alan 851/2 years old now
Re those Batteries, as said they will work fine. However if you let them go completely Flat they are likely to get trashed. A little like a Car Battery, they will benefit from a regular Trickle Charge.
 
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Math 101. 3 x 29 = 87
There are a few cynics among us who firmly believe that the 1/29th scale adopted by both Lewis Polk and Mr Trains was simply because there were SOOOOO many H0-scale drawings out there that simply needed to be enlarged by a simple factor of x3. A LOT of drafting money was saved, of that there is no doubt. OTOH, Mike Wolff of MTH did it all the hard way, sticking to 1/32nd scale - alright for some, but a lot less popular stateside because of the smaller size. 1/29th scale is, after all, 10% larger in all dimensions than 1/32nd, and when you have rolling stock of the impressive North American style, it shows.