hartland flat cars

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GJFREESTONE

Garden Railways, Model making
hi
I thought you might find this interesting I went to see Steve Warrington from back2bay6 to get some track and at the same time I bought a hartland flat bed kit .some of my friends keep on asking me what is in the kit so I thought I would share this with you, for £12.50 you get all these bits and pieces in the first photo .I have over 60 of these and no 4 are the same I have even made a coach out of them, and here are a few examples .
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for a basic flat bed they are a good price and Steve has a selection of other kits by the same maker I would look on his web page because he has not got to many
hope you find this helpful
Graham Shrewsbury
 
So are there other kits you can get to add to the flat car to turn it into a tank wagon or whatever, or are all the "upperworks" scratch built?

(Or is there another post on he way from you which would have answered this question if I'd waited?)
 
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hi Gordon
if you go onto Steves web site you will find ore tippers , small open wagons and tanks .
Graham Shrewsbury
ps the photos you have seen are scratch built
 
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I have a rake of ore hoppers and think they are great. I have added metal wheels and they are rock solid good runners.

To me they look ok behind 1/29th diesels
 
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I bought a dozen of these from the US when the dollar was $2 to the £1. They cost $4.25 each and the tanker $4.75! They are rock solid but watch out for the eventual warping of the solebars after a few years. It is easily resolved by fixing a screw upwards into the flatbed.
 
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Your modifications are very good! I find the Hartland Value Line cars fun and infinitely bashable. I have been known to add a couple of stick on wheel weights to their bottoms. My youngest Grandson has a few and a Mack Switcher that he hasn't (cross fingers) broken yet.
 
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These cars are great. I grab them whenever I can. On the warping of the side frames, mentioned by Keith, I have found that most of these cars come with side frames that are a bit long. I'm talking less than 1/16". So they are a difficult fit unless you cut a small amount from the end of each frame before sliding it into the dovetail slots on the body.

By the way Graham, your cars are great looking. Nice work.
 
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I cured the warping side frames on my HLW wagons by glueing them in place.

(You don't need glue to assemble these trucks, and I've even had Mizzy build one!)

I leave mine out in all weathers, all year round....
 
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A tip, as you look at the sole bar on each end there is a double wedge which slots into the flat bed if you file both sides and the front of the wedge down ( just a bit ) this will stop any bowing in future also on the sole bar the raised letter in the middle catches some of the plastic of the flat bed if trimmed on a angle this will make it slip in more easier and reduce future warping .
Graham Shrewsbury
 
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The only recommendations other than whats already been said is this:

USE METAL WHEELS

The extra weight will make them track and couple much more reliably and reduce the chance of derails.

I dig these, they are the core of my roster and I have also made several bashes on top of them.
 
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A few of my wagons started life as HLW flatbeds:

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They lend themselves to being bashed. I do find the wheels are a little fragile so tend to replace them with metal wheels - which also adds weight.

Rik
 
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Dennis
even straight out of the box they look good here in the uk most of are old tankers are small compered to yours we did not have a awful lot of them on narrow gauge ,but the odd one or two water and tar tankers and other sloshy things. this is what you can make them into by slightly shortening them and adding some welding wire .
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kind regards Graham Shrewsbury
 
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Hi Rik
brilliant wagons I just wish I was as good as you are at weathering. perhaps you could give us a master class on the forum .
Graham Shrewsbury
 
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Rik and Graham
Those wagons just look darned good...nice...:bigsmile:
 
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On the warping of the side frames, mentioned by Keith, I have found that most of these cars come with side frames that are a bit long. I'm talking less than 1/16". So they are a difficult fit unless you cut a small amount from the end of each frame before sliding it into the dovetail slots on the body.

Hmmm.............Great minds think alike


"A tip, as you look at the sole bar on each end there is a double wedge which slots into the flat bed if you file both sides and the front of the wedge down ( just a bit ) this will stop any bowing in future also on the sole bar the raised letter in the middle catches some of the plastic of the flat bed if trimmed on a angle this will make it slip in more easier and reduce future warping ."
 
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GJFREESTONE said:
Hi Rik
brilliant wagons I just wish I was as good as you are at weathering. perhaps you could give us a master class on the forum .
Graham Shrewsbury
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Hi Graham
I've posted some info on how I go about weathering, but I know there are others on the forum whose skills are more refined than mine. I've posted my approach on this thread - http://www.gscalecentral.net/tm?m=279470&high= < Link To http://www.forum.gscalece...spx?m=279470&high= - but hopefully others will add to it to show how they go about it.

I've weathered another HLW convert - it was about time I weathered it.

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Rik
 
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