Ebay bids
- Thread starter KeithT
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Now I am one of the guilty ones who has just, in the last few minutes, withdrawn an item. However, the explanation I think can show that sometimes the reason can be genuine. To start with we are dealing with a sum of money less than £10, so I am not out to cheat anyone for that sort of dosh. This is to do with the scrag ends of my 00 layout (oh woe is me!) and I put together a job lot of scenic bits. One guy says look I only want that that and that for a project, I'll pay you the asking price, you can relist the rest. Now this seems to make sense so I went along with it. I had no other bidders of course at the point of withdrawal. (That sounds a bit rude)
Zerogee
Clencher's Bogleman
Tony said:
I guess there is a number of people who will simply stick a silly low bid in on almost everything the look at, in the hope that maybe one time in a thousand they will be the only bidder and will thus get it for the 99p or whatever. They're obviously not REALLY interested in the item or they'd put a serious bid in, they just want a "bargain" for its own sake. I must admit that I've scored a couple of incredible buys myself by being the only bidder on something, but in these cases at least I'd put in a decent bid of the maximum I was prepared to pay for it - the fact that I ended up paying 99p was simply because no-one else wanted it.
Jon.
"Make something idiot-proof, and Nature will build a better idiot....."
annieshalt
garden railways
i just purchased some ho pico stuff from e/ bay and put in a reasonable bid of £6.00,the others wanted it for nowt, and ended up getting it for £3.71.
as you say most of them want it for nothing,:thumbdown:
as you say most of them want it for nothing,:thumbdown:
dutchelm
Registered
I must plead guilty to putting minimum bids on. Until recently it was the only way to track anything I was interested in bidding for.
My watch list consists of pages & pages of items that SWMBO has added and the odd railway item gets missed. At last with the latest ebay update I can now have my own list.
My watch list consists of pages & pages of items that SWMBO has added and the odd railway item gets missed. At last with the latest ebay update I can now have my own list.
dutchelm said:
I do much the same - several pages of items in all categories in the watching bin, anything 'special' I'm worried about misssing gets a low bid when I find it - I might get lucky and get a bargain, but if not, it appears in a rather shorter list so I can find it again, and ebay are much better at sending out reminders on things I've bid on rather than just watch.
J.
Bredebahn
Cinema, Garden Railway, Private Flying (licenced p
So, can someone tell how these sniping programmes work. Or more to the point, why they are worth paying for (if they are) over Ebay's auto bidding system.
If I want to buy something I normally calculate how much I'm prepared to pay tops, including p&p, chiuck in a bid and walk away so that I don't get caught up in the frenzy at the end. I rely on the Ebay auto bid to increase my bid as needed up to my maximum. Then I drop out. How is this different to a sniping program, except that the latter only puts in one bid at the end - surely the Ebay system will still win for me if my ceiling is higher than the sniper?
If I want to buy something I normally calculate how much I'm prepared to pay tops, including p&p, chiuck in a bid and walk away so that I don't get caught up in the frenzy at the end. I rely on the Ebay auto bid to increase my bid as needed up to my maximum. Then I drop out. How is this different to a sniping program, except that the latter only puts in one bid at the end - surely the Ebay system will still win for me if my ceiling is higher than the sniper?
Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
Standard Auction house rules also apply with Ebay.
as John says, you have to know when to sit on your hands !
as John says, you have to know when to sit on your hands !
Bredebahn said:
One of Ebays strengths is it calls the competative nature of human instinct so even though you want a bargin you also want to own and win,
you may value that Loco at £400 but given the time and choice you would pay £410----£420 so if someone snipes an auction for £410 in the last few seconds you havnt the time to come back with £420
Also we find often someone will put in a stupid high bid 30mins from the end and then withdraw the bid saying theyve entered the wrong amount but what they have done is now found out your highest bid because the item would have gone to just over the bid you put in that give them an idea of the competition
Tony
tramcar trev
all manner of mechanical apparatus...
Tony said:
Theoretically eBay prevents identical bids eben if there are only nano seconds between them.
tramcar trev
all manner of mechanical apparatus...
Its taken me a while to work out strategems to use on eBay however there is still heaps of shonky practises involved.
The thing to remember as someone pointed out is basic human greed, we all want it for nil... And the vendors want big money for whatever they are selling. Recently though I notice that things have swung in favour of the vendors with all manner of cunning ploy being available to ensure they get the most for their product. I DO NOT LIKE the powerseller feature where even if a product is faulty you CANNOT leave negative feeedback untill after showing that you have negotiated with the Powerseller.....
Remember eBay is there to make money for eBay and they use every trick in the book to make it....
It never ceases to amaze me though that identical items from the same seller go at Auction for higher than the buy it now price so there must be some real quinces out there buying at auction or shonky bidding going on. Try getting eBay to resolve an issue too.... I had stuff I had paid for not arrive, they vendor claimed he had sent it and refused to do anything about it, I complained to ebay and the response was to claim insurance for the product.... Another item arrived broken from Honk Kong and I complained - the vendor sent me 2 replacements, and yet on another occasion I bought a rear vision camera for my car, it didn't work and the vendor told me they would replace it trouble was the camera cost me $9 and the postage was $18 so to get a replacement for free would have cost me 2 lots of postage ie. $36 ( they wanted me to send the dud back to them) and Ebay seemed to think that was fair and reasonable....
Yet at other times I have had absolute bargains I bought a 240Volt generator, identical item in the shops around $1000 I got one for $257 + $50 postage....
The only way to win is avoid bidding wars the last second snipe is the best way to go if you wanta bargain....
The thing to remember as someone pointed out is basic human greed, we all want it for nil... And the vendors want big money for whatever they are selling. Recently though I notice that things have swung in favour of the vendors with all manner of cunning ploy being available to ensure they get the most for their product. I DO NOT LIKE the powerseller feature where even if a product is faulty you CANNOT leave negative feeedback untill after showing that you have negotiated with the Powerseller.....
Remember eBay is there to make money for eBay and they use every trick in the book to make it....
It never ceases to amaze me though that identical items from the same seller go at Auction for higher than the buy it now price so there must be some real quinces out there buying at auction or shonky bidding going on. Try getting eBay to resolve an issue too.... I had stuff I had paid for not arrive, they vendor claimed he had sent it and refused to do anything about it, I complained to ebay and the response was to claim insurance for the product.... Another item arrived broken from Honk Kong and I complained - the vendor sent me 2 replacements, and yet on another occasion I bought a rear vision camera for my car, it didn't work and the vendor told me they would replace it trouble was the camera cost me $9 and the postage was $18 so to get a replacement for free would have cost me 2 lots of postage ie. $36 ( they wanted me to send the dud back to them) and Ebay seemed to think that was fair and reasonable....
Yet at other times I have had absolute bargains I bought a 240Volt generator, identical item in the shops around $1000 I got one for $257 + $50 postage....
The only way to win is avoid bidding wars the last second snipe is the best way to go if you wanta bargain....
tramcar trev
all manner of mechanical apparatus...
funandtrains said:
Oh yes indeed.... but the snipe bidders usually are interested in skimming your money so usually have the incentive to get the item for you, so the sniper's net won't die like mine seems to right when you need it...
tramcar trev said:
Trev the atitude in your statement is the whole reason Ebay changed that, Buying something on Ebay is not a one sided arrangement Mistakes can be made in listings, Damage in the post, Buyers winning something that isnt what they thought. so the feedback isnt just about leaving a positive because you stole a bargin its should also reflect how the seller acted when things go wrong. The whole point of the feedback is to inform other buyers of the service you can expect from that seller. Or indeed the buyer
often you can read more about a person from a short line of feedback left than a whole page of text
To be a powerseller means in effect your buyers have voted you that way reflecting your service, responce to questions, Postage prices and times, quality of items etc so it was unfair in the past when some numpty affected that status after he realised he had bid to much for something so left an unfair feedback without giving the buyer the chance to make things better,
Tony
Ah you were watching Tony were you? Not very sure what he really wanted he did explain briefly what the project he was working on was but it involved buses, he seems to be a bit of an expert on buses. That's another problem I'm going to have, what am I going to do with 200-300 diecast buses? Unfortunately things like the limited edition Corgi Classics, forgotten the scale, just don't attract good prices
Its not just Bus,s there is a lot of "collectable" stuff made since the 90s when companies jumped on the resurgence in childhood memories bandwagon with limited edition everythings i was at an auction the other day selling someones collection of modern "collectable" teddies, ones with £100 each price tags selling in lots of ten for £20-£30. non of which were more than 10 years old Thats a loss of £980 per ten and there must have been 20 lots like thatGlengrant said:
The unquie thing with railways is the diversity of the prototype and the fact its models are mechanical as well as all the stuff that goes with it unlike any other collecting field
As for your bus's id keep display and enjoy them or sell them all in one lot and invest in a nice loco
Tony