Decoder fitting compilation version1

PaulRhB

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Please feel free to add more links and I'll add them to the first two posts to make searching easier. I'll leave the posts in as credit to all who help out.

If you click on some of the links it causes an error, copy the link and paste it into the address box at the top of your screen and it will work fine.

LGB Locos
3 PIN (OLDER TYPE) LGB Gearboxes decoder fitting INFO , Thanks to Steve Parberry & Steve Lewis
https://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/52057
an alternative option
[URL='http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/54065[/URL]

Split gearboxes
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/229


LGB onboard factory fitted decoder details & CV lIsts
http://www.grossbahnen.de/informationen/lgb_lehmann/LGB_Onboard_Dekoder_CVs.pdf < Link To http://www.grossbahnen.de/informationen/lgb_lehmann/LGB_Onboard_Dekoder_CVs.pdf < Link To http://www.grossbahnen.de...nboard_Dekoder_CVs.pdf

http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/18609


Installing MTS3 or another manufacturers decoder to a loco designed for two LGB decoders and an interface lead.
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/228

RhB Ge2/4 (Chocolate block)
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/445

060 diesel with outside rods.
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/1231

RhB Crocodile
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/6929


Mallet with 3 pin motor block
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/442

http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/1224

Cambrai or Corpet Louvre
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/437

Harz 2-6-2
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/236


DR Railbus ? (pig nosed)
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/225

Stainz
http://shop.waltonsmodels.co.uk/Stainz.php
http://www.homestyal.co.uk/html/hlr_digital_decoder.html


Aristocraft & Bachmann

General tips on DCC, getting locos apart for
A lot of info about fitting decoders in LGB-Piko-Bachmann-Brekina can be found on the Massoth forum:
http://massoth.gotdns.com:81/forumde/viewforum.php?f=24&sid=f6e98e0e0e013ce3aed32ba8995d2d45 < Link To http://massoth.gotdns.com...013ce3aed32ba8995d2d45
http://www.girr.org/girr/tips/tips.html

2-8-0 Consolidation (Connie)
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/27389

Bachmann Shay
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/89310
Sorting the Aristo RS3
http://largescaletrainshops.homestead.com/RS3internalFix.html

Bachmann Lyn
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/160495

USA Trains locos

http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/6208



Piko
Piko BR80 - Disassembly and DCC fitting:
http://www.gscalecentral.net/product-reviews/piko-s-br80-sow-s-ear-or-silk-purse.html ?

Railbus
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/1185&high=piko+railbus

http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/246

Piko Harz Camel, (by Stockers)
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/95620

and some useful advice about what chips to choose for PIKO locos in this thread
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/33593

Playmobil, fitting a TCS decoder
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/52103

Smoke units and DCC
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/22355


ESU chips configured for MTS

http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/29364
 
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PaulRhB

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Some general stuff for setting up Loksound decoders to use with MTS.
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/29364

Altering sounds on ESU chips, (Cliff makes Thomas speak! Methods applicable to creating any of your own sound files)
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/44640

Another useful fault fix this time for ESU decoders
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/150292


Smoke units and DCC
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/22355

"The trials of a novice", when a loco doesn't appear to respond correctly to some commands
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/47070

QSI SOUND DECODER PROBLEM & SOLUTION
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/47379
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/47379 < Link To
Setting the default COM port on your PC for LGB prpgramming module.
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/76573</a>

Not strictly DCC but excellent servicing guide to LGB motors by Neil Robinson
http://www.gscalecentral.net/threads/1237
 
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OK I've redone all the links so they are accurate addressess for the relevant threads.

if you click on some of the links it causes an error, copy the link and paste it into the address box at the top of your screen and it will work fine.
 
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RE DECODER FITING IN OLDER 3 WIRE SYTEM GEARBOX LOCOS.----------------
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I have completed installation of a Massoth XL decoder in my LGB QM ALCO Diesel loco.

I devised what I think is a simple method of overcoming the 'problem' of the common WHITE cable on one side of the gearboxes...........this cable both supplies picked up power to loco's ANALOGUE PCB and and is also the same connector for one side of the motor supply, so therefore in DCC mode this is a no go situation!!

This motor feed and pickup MUST be seperated!!

I achieved this quite simply!

I insulated with around 10mm of plastic tape the metal strip which connects electrically the skate & carbon wheel pickups on the gearbox side which has the SINGLE white cable. the small piece of insulation is positioned to isolate the PIN to which the single WHITE cable, so now the PIN only supplies power to the motor contact, and the white cable becomes a motor feed from the DECODER

I soldered a NEW lead to the BRASS skate holder on the G box, this lead now supplies track power to one decoder input,
(it is nescessary to drill a couple of small holes in the gearbox housing to route the NEW cable inside the loco to the decoder,)

So from then in its just normal hard wired decoder installation using the 3 original LGB cables and the NEW cable for decoder input and motor feed, remembering of course its a bogie loco so it all has to be done twice!!

Lghts all wired to decoder and original PCB removed, it all worked first time.

I forgot to take phots, but I will prob be doing another and will remeber to do so then!
 
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Zerogee

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This thread is always a hugely useful resource, Paul, thanks for keeping it current (no pun intended....).

The most recent post about chipping the little Playmobil maintenance unit is very timely indeed, since I've just acquired one myself - it is getting put away for the time being as a long-term project, but the plan is to sound-chip it (probably a massoth LS, got to choose a suitable sound file for it - would the "generic small diesel" Kof type sound right for this, or maybe the file for something petrol-engined like the pigsnout railbus might be better?) and possibly fit lights, plus weather it up thoroughly and change handrails etc. to make it a bit less toylike.

If anyone else has experiences with these, or pics of what they've done with one, I'd be pleased to know!
 
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Stainz dismantling/decoder fitting link added to top post.
 
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Just come to chip a Ballenberg 20471 (1067) version. Beware before chipping these some are readied for MTS 2 chips and some ready for MTS 3. The LGB instruction book shows the 10 pin interface cable but as you can see below I have two boards one from a previously chipped loco and one from mine. Yes I am aware that mine has a decoder fitted but I am going to fit Massoth sound into it. I just wanted to show the comparison in the two types of board and advise people to check which board is fitted to theirs.
BTW in order to get the body off you need to undo seven screws (one of which is between the cylinders) the other four are quite evident on the bottom of the body. However to remove the back two you do need to remove the brake vacc assembly under the cab righ side looking from the rear and the little tank on the left both held in by small screws
The speaker fits under the cap on top of the valve gear