Daddeeeeeeeee, I need heeeeeeeeeeeelp!!!!!!!!!!

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I love my kids, I really do, but sometimes......

On Thursday afternoon I got a phone call from my soon-to-be 20 year old daughter. She asked if I had an "early 19th century" locomotive model for her college History class.......

1852 was "too late"...

"Can you build me something?"

When do you need it by?

"Tuuuuuesdaaaaaay"..........

The ONLY one that I thought I MIGHT be anywhere near able to finish in a little over 3 days would be Peter Cooper's 1829-30 Tom Thumb.
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And only if it was static (at least for now) So I went scrounging. I Found a HLW mini flat to build it from. I had some nylon gears. I knew I could toss together a boiler, coal box, the blower fan, cylinder assembly, and even railings from stuff in the scrapbox.....
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From what I've so far found: The 1925 reproduction at the B&O Museum is supposed to actually be larger than the original. The reproduction in a smidge over 14 feet kong, has a 27" dia boiler 66" tall, and a 5" x 27" cylinder. In 1/32 that would be 5-1/4" long, so the HLW flat is actually pretty close. the boiler SHOULD scale out at 13/16" in diameter x 2-1/16 tall... I fudged those numbers a little... ok, a lot.... Since I didn't have much time or any budget.


Yes, this is the very same locomotive that famously lost a race with a horse...
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/tomthumb.htm

I actually dare anybody to prove my model "wrong" since no original drawings or pieces of the original survive - historical preservation wasn't in vogue then. The B&O's replica was actually built based on notes and sketches that Peter Cooper drew up in the 1870s - 40+ years after the fact - and with a large dose of Pangborn thrown in!

Anyway, the first order of biz was to marrow the deck on the flatcar. Tom Thumb probably wasn't much wider than the rail gauge.
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A boiler was fabbed up from a bit of 1" PVC pipe, some evergreen styrene tube & sheet... and a bunch of escutcheon pins.
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I found one LGB spoked wheelset in a drawer... so we were off and running on making it "work"
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The crankshaft itself required two slots be cut in the deck. Yes, the main bearing is built up from wood... just like a cheeseburger, it was fast cheap and easy.
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The cylinder was more plastruct, wood, and a couple cheesy New Bright pilot wheels
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A quick mock-up... I still think the boiler looks an awful lot like a bottle of nail polish. Or maybe White Out....
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Another g-scaler sent me this pic of the B&O replica. I spotted 5 things that just didn't belong on the original version right off.
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1. While the Salter type spring safety valve was invented in 1770, and the Hackworth direct spring version in 1828, the "pop" type didn't appear until 1873
2. The glass water column was invented in 1829 in England. However many, if not most, American built boilers were still fitted only with trycocks for ay least 15 years after that. (partially due to the patent keeping costs higher, and partly because we were nearly always slow in adopting European inventions during this period, preferring to wait for an American to re-invent it.... often as much as a decade later)
3. The steam whistle wasn't invented until 1833
4,The Bourdon tube pressure gauge wasn't developed until 1849
5. The feedwater injector wasn't invented until 1858

Did you rail historian types get them all?

Anyway, the question then became WHAT should I fit to THIS model? Certainly not an injector or whistle. Probably 4 trycocks in a diagonal line above the firedoor door. I used a weight and lever safety valve simply because it was easy to make The pressure gauge if one was even fitted, was probably similar to the mercury one George Stephenson used on his Rocket the same year. Since I didn't have a lot of extra time to devote. I didn't make one.

As Saturday ended, I knew it would be close... but probably finished in time.
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A wooden wheel, and broken clothespin made the blower. A NOS Kalamazoo 4-4-0 connecting rod proved perfect. some 1/8" square plastruct for railing, and by halftime I had this..... (Feetball games are mostly just an excuse to eat hammy sammiches and tater chips, anyway)
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By the end of the game it looked like this... pretty much done except for the water barrel and second spoked wheelset that should be coming in Monday's mail.... and paint.
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Not bad for 3 days. If I had more time, I'd pretty it up a bit and fit it with a 3v motor and a AAA battery. The B&O replica is basic black all over. The original COULD could have been black. Black lacquer WAS used a lot on carriages.... OTOH all black isn't the color we generally associate with most other "pioneer" locos...... but with post 1900 "frugal" railroads. Just another little mystery never to be solved.

I may paint the deck nutmeg brown for bare wood, and the side sills Hauser green for visual interest.
 
Looks cool to me.. agree with kids though eldest son recently asked me if I could help install a flat pack kitchen for him... I said yes... Now the project includes knocking down a wall and laying a floating timber floor.....
 
Oh strewth no.... then I'd have to pack up my tramway....
 
I think youse guys have got it all wrong, you don't have to make old style locos, or build kitchens and so on and so on. All you have to do when you get the "DaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahD" you know the tone of voice over the phone instantaneoulsy, "Daaaaaaaaaaaahd I was wondering" oh yes, they put it in such a roundabout way " wondering if you could help out here" at this point I interrupt and ask quite simply "How much?" In fact, I can usually get to the point now where I can recognise the ringing tone and all I need to do is pick up the phone and before anyone speaks I as "How Much?" It's a fairly simple sort of procedure, after all, I don't have to lift anything, build anything, paint or wallpaper, nothing like that, just hand it over. It's a good idea to have a supply of the readies to hand, as I have here

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Yes that sound of the call coming over the air. The not so rare breed....the needafavournow vulgaris.............

What a really fine build in such a short time. She should be well chuffed (?) with that! Excellent Mik
 
What we won't do for our kids, especially the eldest daughter.

Great build by the way. See what happens when the pressure is applied?
 
I decided to go with the green. It gave it a little contrast.

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Not too bad for an animated flatcar....

I also got to wondering what kind of reverse gear it could have had, I'm guessing something based upon a slip eccentric or perhaps a Gab gear see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_va... or Cooper would have attempted to patent it.
 
A locomotive of this vintage may well have had Hackworth valve gear fitted.... Some of the very early locos had manual valve opening and closing where the Driver moved the valves via hand levers... I think that may have been known as Potter valve gear....
No doubt one of our resident experts will know the real answer....
It's a topic of interest to me, the actual building of these venerable machines, one has to remember that they were built by blacksmiths of incredible skill, the wheels were held onto the axels using the iron filings and urine technique the cylinder bores were by todays standards unbelievably crude.... None the less they worked - sort of..... It must have been amazing to be so close or at times in front of the razors edge technologically speaking.
 
The Stephenson's link wasn't invented until 1842

The Hackworth was introduced in 1859

Despite the legend of a "young blacksmith" hauling his diminutive locomotive overland in a wagon to win some contest... the truth, at least in this case, was actually far different. Peter Cooper was 38 when Tom Thumb was built. He was trained in several disciplines, and already an accomplished businessman and factory owner in 1829,... http://www.rebresearch.com/Cooper/p...hen, folks are in love with legends..........
 
your a good dad mik!

obviously you have the skill and inclination to be able to help her,
but

having turned curmudgeonly,
the days of my willingness to jump due to short,yet foreseeable, notice for my kid has passed, more or less.......
i have always been eager to help and solve problems, make me feel Dad-like ...but i do get .....tried, by the 'expectation' sometimes

btw , a very plausible work indeed-
 
AWRYPres said:
Madman said:
See what happens when the pressure is applied?
The pressure of the child in need or the steam in the boiler?
As beautiful as the build is, a bit of restraint building steam might be in order.
Why the pressure of having a deadline, of course. :laugh:
 
I came across a bit of info on the original yesterday. Seems Cooper's engine had a 3" bore and a 14" stroke. The rrplica at the B&O Museum has a 5" bore and a 27" stroke... IF they kept the (roughly) 150% ratio, then the original might have been only 10 feet long -- or about the size of a work flat on many horsecar lines. Tom Thumb, indeed!
 
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