Converting two Hartland Macks to a 'double loco'

gregh

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This is my story of how I took two Hartland Mack locos like these…
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….and finished up with this…
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I have previously used Aristcraft motor blocks for my scratchbuilding. But with their unavailability, I decided to try using the Hartland Mack blocks.

These locos sell for 50USD in the States, so I got my daughter to bring me 3 when she visited.

I had already converted a Mack to simple battery for grandson Eddie, but without RC. But now that he's 6, he wanted full RC. I decided it would be a too much of a squeeze to get the batteries, RC and sound gear and a speaker into a standard Mack, so we decided he would get a 'double loco'. One of the 'locos' is just a dummy and carries the batteries only. The powered loco has the RC, motor control, sound and speaker. He requested the blue/green colour scheme.

The internet provided info on how to dismantle the locos. They very much click apart and you finish up with these parts..
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The motor block top and bottom can be removed easily, so as I'm using battery power, I removed the pickups from the wheels and just brought the motor wires out.
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(The motor block must be removed to get at the screws that hold the cab on, otherwise I probably could have done this with the motor in place.)
While I had the motor off, I painted the wheels flat black.
I retained the very chunky bogie side plates (if that's the term).
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I did try changing the simulated coil springs to leaf type on on side, but decided it was too much work for little reward. So the other 3 sides retain the coil springs.

For the 2nd loco I built a 'wheel block' from wood and used plastic wheels. These wheels are smaller diameter than the Mack, but the beauty of the chunky side plates is that you can't see the wheels.
(That also gives me a spare motor block for future builds.)
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The cabs were reused without change except for replacing the frosted glass with clear windows.
I made the 'hoods' from styrene and some louvre material I had on hand.
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The rear compartments are also styrene. The 3” speaker is glued on the back wall behind a large section of louvres.
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I used a Hobbyking 2.4 GHz receiver. I built my own motor speed controller using a Picaxe 08M2 to decode the Rx speed and direction outputs, and used a relay for reversing. Another picaxe provides the diesel sound into an LM380 amplifier.
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I scattered as much lead around as I could fit in to bring the weight up to 1300g. (The original Mack weighs 1000g)


In the dummy loco, I used 8, AA size, 2500 mAh NiMH cells of the low self discharge type, from Hobbyking. These are soldered together, 3 cells under the front hood and 5 at the back to distribute the weight.

A 3 wire servo type plug/socket connects the 2 locos. (3rd wire is reverse headlight.). That brought it's (dead)weight up to 700g.

A quick paint and some yellow lining and it was done. It's not a model finished to a high degree, just something for Eddie to play with. I doubt if there is any prototype.

Here's a link to the video of it's first test run.
https://youtu.be/uhDgfSdkVdI
 
Interesting conversion and quite powerfull too. As regards prototypes, it looks plausible, and is different. Love the louvres!
 
Greg great build.
Interested in the Picaxe/relay reversing setup I have been playing around with a similar thing. Might have to pick your brains in the future about it.
 
Greg lovely and very interesting conversion. Very much in line with many of the Twins that I have seen in NG and Short Line Gazette, but in yours is in our Scale. I know that you are a Battery Man and with those Driving Wheels I think a Battery Option may be the best bet. I use a Mack Chassis as a Chip Tester and would not trust those wheels to pick up Juice in the Garden. Unless of course two were juiced up together. Even then I reckon the Track Pickup would be dodgy.
JonD
 
Another great loco build, Greg. It certainly seems to have the guts needed to haul a train up your gradient. I really like its quirkiness - I could see this hauling lumber or skips on an industrial branchline.

Rik
 
Another great loco build, Greg. It certainly seems to have the guts needed to haul a train up your gradient. I really like its quirkiness - I could see this hauling lumber or skips on an industrial branchline.

Rik
I haven't lettered it as Sandstone and Termite yet as I was considering something like you suggest, as either a 'private' coal or logging railway.
 
Greg

I would be interested to know where you got the louvre material from.

David
 
Excellent conversion Greg.
Your layout is looking mighty fine as usual and the tall trestles are a thing of wonder, as is the route 'through' the rock.

I too would like to know where you acquired the louvre material.
 
The Hartland Mack locos are an excellent value. As you mentioned, $50.00 is well within most of our railway budgets. I have only one that I converted to battery power via trailing battery car. It's a great little loco and earns it's keep on the Wicked Short Line railway.
 
Another great loco build, Greg. It certainly seems to have the guts needed to haul a train up your gradient. I really like its quirkiness - I could see this hauling lumber or skips on an industrial branchline.

Rik
Maybe the story could go like this...

Up in the Quark Hills behind Sandstone, there are vast reserves of radioactive material.
Atom Mining has built a branchline to bring out the ore. There are no pics of the trains as they only run at night for 'security'.
BUT, here's a picture sneaked out of the Atom workshops where they have developed a nuclear powered loco. A triumph of Aussie Engineering.
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Maybe the story could go like this...

Up in the Quark Hills behind Sandstone, there are vast reserves of radioactive material.
Atom Mining has built a branchline to bring out the ore. There are no pics of the trains as they only run at night for 'security'.
BUT, here's a picture sneaked out of the Atom workshops where they have developed a nuclear powered loco. A triumph of Aussie Engineering.
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That should be an interesting challenge for the soundcard ...... :):think:

Rik
 
They probably make a 'chundering' sound.. Especially if powered by radio-active Vegamite!

:eek::sick::sick:
 
Hmmm...I Hadn't though about the sound they'd make. Turbine whine? Maybe just dead silent.

Possibly trying to be far too logical about this.... but a Nuclear-powered loco would most likely be using the reactor heat through a heat exchanger to make steam (in a closed system, so no exhaust) to run a turbine - so yes, I'd say a whining turbine sound.....Jon.
 
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