Claptowte Railway - Coach No3, Departmental Tool/Mess Van

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When assembling the fleet of passenger vehicles for the Claptowte Railway, I was always collecting to a plan. Okay, that plan changed over the years, to accommodate new ideas, but there was always a plan. The object was to portray a piecemeal collection of narrow gauge bogie coaches, of differing designs, from differing sources, but all with the same corporate livery and identity.

Although the number of vehicles per passenger rake has increased from three to four, there are still, as originally intended, four rakes of locomotive hauled coaches. The designs included four brake/third and one full brake coach. This means that there would always have been a spare brake vehicle. The premise was always going to be, right from the start, even before the majority of coaches had been built, that one of the brake/third coaches was going to be withdrawn from passenger revenue service to be converted into a mess/tool van to accompany the company’s mobile crane, even though the parts to build the crane had yet to be purchased. The ‘converted’ coach would be re-livered in Engineering Department green.

The fleet of Claptowte Railway coaches are numbered 1 – 18, although they were never built in that order, however, there are only seventeen of them. Coach No3 was always missing, destined to be the Engineering Department Tool/Mess Van.

Coach No3 was intended to be the twin of coach No4, made from joining a LGB Toy Train 4-wheel coach and a balcony van, and mounting them on LGB Jackson Sharp bogies. Coach No4 was one of the very first coaches that I built for the Claptowte Railway, and the first that I built by grafting together two 4-wheel vehicles from the LGB Toy Train range.

The joining together of two 4-wheel Toy Train coaches, to make a bogie coach, is a path taken by many before me. What I had not previously seen, when I embarked on this project back in 2006, was the joining together of a 4-wheel coach and a balcony ended van, to make a brake coach. Wishing to produce something different to the rest, I decided to start with this conversion. No sooner had I started, I realised why no one had attempted it before, both the body height and the roof profile of the donor vehicles are different. The rectification of these problems entailed quite a bit of extra work to the van body and its roof profile. Having done this, I had to create a curved roof to run the full length of the new combined bodies. I used 2.0mm plastic sheet, the curving of which involved much swearing, blaspheming and throwing of tools out of windows. These were not processes that I was in a hurry to repeat, and explains why I left the building of the twin vehicle to the very last, after I had built all the rest of the coaches.

So here we are, over sixteen years later, and sixteen coach builds/modifications, in between, it’s time to build the twin of coach No4. Well not an exact twin, over the years, with other builds, I have practiced, and in some areas, refined my modelling techniques. There are some subtle differences between the two builds. The most obvious physical difference is the roof. Whereas No4 has a one-piece plasticard roof, with No3, after all of my previous conversions, I ended up with a spare 4-wheel coach roof, so the roof for No4 was created by joining two 4-wheel roofs together. This created extra work, but of a different kind which I will explain as I go along. The other alteration is the addition of tables in the passenger compartment, to create a mess room for the Engineering Department staff.

The photos below show the donor vehicles before any modifications were carried out



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For this build, I decided it would be easier to carry out the modifications to each of the body shells before joining them together. I started with the passenger coach body. I have identified each alteration with a letter.

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A The moulded rib at the end of the body, where it will be joined, carved off and sanded smooth, both sides.

B Retaining slots, for the roof fixing taps, filled in with thin plasticard, flush with the outer surface, so that tabs still fit into slots on inner surface.

C Windows framed with 2.0 x 1.5mm plastic strip.

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Interior of end wall sheeted over with 0.5mm plasticard to cover window aperture

E Dummy door frame from plasticard strip.

F Bent brass wire door handle.

G Holes drilled to line up with van body, so that the two bodies can be bolted together with 4.0mm bolts, so reinforce glue.

H Slots to facilitate reinforcing brass strips where roof sections joined.




Alterations to body of Toy Train balcony ended van

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I The moulded rib at the end of the body, where it will be joined, carved off and sanded smooth, both sides.

J The window aperture, on each side, enlarged to facilitate guards ducket.

K Raised moulded panel, on each side, carved off and sanded flush with body side, then scribed to replicate planking.

L 3.0mm deep plasticard strip glued to bottom edge to make up wall height to match coach body, scribed to replicated planking.

M Moulded pipe work and valve, on end wall, carved off, sanded flush and scribed to replicate planking.

N Plasticard, made up to thickness of end wall, carved and sanded to shape to match roof profile of passenger coach

O Slots to facilitate reinforcing brass strips where roof sections joined.

P Holes drilled to line up with coach body, so that the two bodies can be bolted together with 4.0mm bolts, so reinforce glue.

Q Dummy door frame from plasticard strip.

R Bent brass wire door handle.

That completed the alterations to the two bodies. Before gluing them together, I packed out the void spaces between the two body backs by gluing in offcuts of platicard, to bring the two surfaces of the bodies flush. After gluing the two bodies together, I inserted four bolts through the pre-drilled holes, to reinforce the join.

After the bodies were joined, the join was smoothed out and the planking re-scribed. Last of all, a pair of Garden Railway Specialists (GRS) guards duckets were glued on, over the enlarged apertures on the side of the van body.

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I decided to build the coach body before tackling the underframe and the roof. I knew there would be a small gap to be made up between the two 4-wheeler underframes, and, until they could be offered up to the completed body, there was no way to determine how wide that gap would be. For the same reason, the roof was left as a small amount would have to be cut off the length of each roof section, before they could be joined.


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I started the preparation of the under frames by what has become a tried and trusted method, used on all my other conversions. The first stage is to saw off the dummy W irons and axel boxes. Next cut out the unwanted bits either side of the centreline, keep and clean up the tank for re-use later.

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Now cut out the centre buffer, from the non-balcony end, and clean off any raised mouldings so that the two frames can be glued/bolted together at this end. I keep the salvaged buffers and vacuum pipes to use when modifying other stock.

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Two holes, to take 4.0mm bolts, were drilled in each buffer beam, using the upper of the two holes into which the brake pipe fits, as a guide. The two underframes were then placed in position on their respective bodies so that the resulting gap between the buffer beams could be determined. A piece of plasticard of appropriate thickness was cut as a shim to fill the gap. The bolt holes were replicated in the plasticard shim. Once this was done, the two underframes were glued together and the join reinforced with two 4.0mm bolts. The buffer beams, at the join, were then neatened up by sawing and sanding flush with the sides and underside of the frames. The salvaged tank was then re-glued into the central position on the underside.

The frames were then packed out and strengthened with offcuts of plasticard onto which were glued the rubbing plates of 3.0mm plasticard. These were then drilled, in the appropriate place to take plastic tubes, glued in, to act as the pivots for the bogies.

The original footsteps are replaced at the coach end of the new underframe. At the van end, the extra long footsteps of the van are substituted with a spare pair of short coach footsteps, to allow the bogie to pivot freely.

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The bogies used, were LGB Jackson Sharp passenger bogies, fitted with Al Kramer bright nickel plated, solid turned brass, wheels. These wheels are standard fitting on all Claptowte Railway rolling stock. They are very heavy and provide an excellent low centre of gravity for the model. The bogies are held in place by washers of scrap plasticad screwed into the pivot ends.

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To complete the rolling chassis, the hand brake stands were removed from the balcony ends. The holes in the buffer beams were plugged and the fixing lug on the balcony railing was cut off. The balcony railings were clad in expanded aluminium mesh, as used for auto body repair. A plasticard post was glued into the centre of the railings and to this was fitted a GRS etched brass lamp iron. The brake pipes were refitted.

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The construction of the roof presented a new problem. A passenger coach roof will not fit onto the modified van body, without itself being modified to fit by cutting away a large section of the internal side ribbing. This means that the van end of the new combined body, offers little in the way of fixing and support and relies of the rigidity of the coach end fixings. The passenger coach roof was placed in position and marked where the overlap needed to be cut off to reduce its length at the join, approximately 3.0mm. The modified roof was then placed on the van end and the process repeated.

This brought the end transverse ribs, on top, very close together, which looked odd. I tried a new technique to solve this problem. I carved and sanded off both ribs flush to the roof surface. I applied plastic weld solvent to the sanded, to soften the plastic, then stippled the area with a steel wire brush to re-texture it.

To ensure the maximum strength of join between the two roof sections I cut slots in the internal end ribs so that brass strip could be glued in between the internal surfaces of the side ribs. This is why I had to cut slots in the end of the joining body walls, at roof height, to accommodate the brass strips. The two roofs were glued, butt jointed, together and the joint reinforced by gluing brass strips across the join as described.

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A strip of plasticard, shaped to match the roof ribs was then glued across the top surface of the join to conceal it. Holes were drilled to take GRS lamp tops and roof ventilators. A plastic tube was inserted to represent a chimney for the stove. Conduit was fabricated from plastic rod and brass wire.

The interior of the passenger compartment was altered by lowering the seat backs, as with other Toy Train conversions, and gluing plastic strips to the side walls to support one end of the plasticard mess tables. The other ends of the tables are supported by a leg cut from a wooden cocktail stick.

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The completed model, prior to priming and painting

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On all of my previous conversions, using planked bodies, I have glued on thin placticard boards, to the coach sides, to facilitate the placement of decals for the company name, coach number, etc. For coach No3, the lettering is a bit more complex and I did not have any suitable lettering in white. I decided to print the lettering on thin white card. After cutting to size, a black marker pen was run around the edge, to hide the white edge, and then they were then glued on.


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The completed model, pained glazed and sign written

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Beautiful work as usual. What do you usually use for white lettering/ decals? I was trying dry lettering transfers today but not a success. I think your railway is indoors but are you never tempted to weather the coaches?
 

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Beautiful work as usual. What do you usually use for white lettering/ decals? I was trying dry lettering transfers today but not a success. I think your railway is indoors but are you never tempted to weather the coaches?
I have never previously used white lettering on coaching stock, as per my comments at the bottom of part 3 of 4. All of the passenger coaching stock is gold lettered using waterslide of rub on lettering, or a combination of both. I do not have any intensions of weathering my stock at this time. I have invested too many years building them plus, of course, the Claptowte Railway has invested in a very efficient carriage washing plant.

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Beautiful work as usual. What do you usually use for white lettering/ decals? I was trying dry lettering transfers today but not a success. I think your railway is indoors but are you never tempted to weather the coaches?
Have you looked at Fox Transfers? They have a limited supply suitable for our scale :nod::nod:
 

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Have you looked at Fox Transfers? They have a limited supply suitable for our scale :nod::nod:
Thanks, but I don't need any, the job is finished.

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Thanks, but I don't need any, the job is finished.

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Of course. I forgot about the carriage washing plant. I find out difficult to outwit your fervent imagination behind this railway. Where do you get your gold water transfers then?
 

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Of course. I forgot about the carriage washing plant. I find out difficult to outwit your fervent imagination behind this railway. Where do you get your gold water transfers then?
My initial source was a large sheet of GWR gold waterslide decals that included, in a smaller font, the readymade words, First, Third, Luggage, Guard, etc., which was produced by GRS at Princess Risborough. As with all things, this sheet was discontinued some years ago and I was unable to get another from this source. When we were staying with our son in the US. I obtained some rub on lettering in an almost identical font. When that ran out, I ordered some waterslide letters direct from eBay USA, for minimal cost and postage.
K4 HO Decals Gold 3/16 Inch Railroad Roman Letter Number Alphabet Set | eBay

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Anogreat and inspired build:clap::clap:
 

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My initial source was a large sheet of GWR gold waterslide decals that included, in a smaller font, the readymade words, First, Third, Luggage, Guard, etc., which was produced by GRS at Princess Risborough. As with all things, this sheet was discontinued some years ago and I was unable to get another from this source. When we were staying with our son in the US. I obtained some rub on lettering in an almost identical font. When that ran out, I ordered some waterslide letters direct from eBay USA, for minimal cost and postage.
K4 HO Decals Gold 3/16 Inch Railroad Roman Letter Number Alphabet Set | eBay

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Thanks David. I have tracked them down and put in an order... before exchange rate gets any worse $1 to £1.07)!
 

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The coach has a spot of fresh air in the garden, 1.10.2022.

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Another excellent build;););););):clap:
 

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Very smart, especially the olive green departmental paint job,

Having read the usual fantastic write up, it begs the question do you intend to model the super efficient carriage wash plant?

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Another great build, David, with your usual fine attention to detail. The crew quarters look very plush. I think you're spoiling them.:D

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It only occurred to me recently that I did not have any photographs of the whole ensemble, match truck, crane and mess/tool van. I set about rectifying that.

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