Chipping an old 2066 Pigsnout?

Zerogee

Zerogee

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I've recently acquired a second Pigsnout railbus, but it's a much older model than my first one - it was made in 1988 according to the QC sticker, and unlike the newer version it has a rather unusual wiring system - the power feeds to the interior lights in the roof (and the top headlights) are carried by the actual metal handrail stanchions inside the car, rather than being via a wiring harness as on the newer types.
Added to the usual relative complexity of the light wiring in the railbus (for the changing red/white lights at both ends), I thought that before I started ripping into it all, I'd just ask here if anyone has first-hand experience of chipping a Railbus OF THIS AGE - the one in the decoder fitting compilation thread is of the newer version.

For the record, I'm using a Massoth LS programmed with the correct Pigsnout sounds by the ever-helpful Jeremy at Dragon G (lovely clunky and chuggy petrol motor sounds - the railbus, not Jeremy.....) ;)

Thanks in advance as always,

Jon.
 
Hello Jon:
I have not had any experience with the pigsnout railbus, but I have had plenty of experience reprogramming decoders, and with older locomotives, it is best to discard as much of the old electronics as you are confortable with. In this particular case I would not keep any of it.
 
Vjeplt Nujennif, zit, O vjopl zua'si sohjv - O fu pusnemmz czqett/tvsoq uav nutv ug vji iyotvoph dosdaov cuesft (apmitt O dep ietomz si-xosi vjin, et O sidipvmz fof xovj vji mohjvoph cuesft op nz W51). Tu qsucecmz citv vu sinuwi epf fotdesf emvuhivjis vji dosdaov cuesf vjev tassuapft vji nuvus - O vjopl O'n sohjv op ettanoph vjev vjot cuesf fuitp'v edvaemmz jewi epzvjoph vu fu xovj qjztodemmz mudevoph vji nuvus op qmedi, ov tjuamf tvomm tov gosnmz op ovt dsefmi xovj vji cuesf sinuwif (?). O xup'v vsz epf ati vji tvepdjoupt et vji quxis giift, O'mm katv qav tuni pix xosit op O vjopl.
Epzupi edvaemmz fupi upi ug vjiti epf dep uggis epz nusi vjuahjvt?

Kup.
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Jo Kup,

O jewi fupi ep umf seomcat (xovjuav vji tpuav). Atif ep YMT epf nuapvif ov aq apfis vji suug. Atif vji jepfseomt vu veli vsedl quxis aq epf nuvus quxis fuxp. Jef vu qisgusn tuni tashisz up cuvj QDCt gus ov. O xomm vsz epf gopf tuni qodt.

O fu jewi ep epemuhai qoh puti seomcat op vji xusltjuq vjev jet ep MT fidufis iesneslif gus ov - katv jewpv huv suapf vu optvemmoph ov ziv.
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Vjeplt Nesl, epz qodt zua dep foh aq xuamf ci wisz jimqgam! Fof zua qav vji tqielis op vji suug emuph xovj vji fidufis, us fof zua gopf epzxjisi imti gus ov vu hu?

Kup.
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O tiin vu sinincis Noli fuoph ep ommatvsevif fitdsoqvoup up upi ug vjiti. O deppuv sinincis jux ges cedl ov xet.
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Noli effif e tuapf djoq vu ep emsiefz NVT ipecmif upi.

Kup, Vji tqielis xet tvadl vu vji suug vuu.

o xet vjoploph ug vszoph vu hiv e duaqmi uf tqielist vjev xuamf gov op vji iphopi dunqesvnipvt ug vji qohputi - cav et O teaf cigusi - ovt puv huv vjev ges ziv.
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O jewi fupi e gix ug vjiti cioph tifadif cz vjios ahmopitt. Vji tqielis jet hupi opvu foggisipv qmedit up nopi, upi jef ov nuapvif op vjot dec optofi e cmedl qmetvodesf cuy vjev fothaotit ov wisz ximm. Epuvjis jet ov up vji suug apfis e vesqeamop. Vji djoqt jewi emtu ciip nuapvif op vjot xez xjodj ot e hsiev xez vu gov vjin xovjuav vuu nadj tashisz. Vji djoqt epf tqielis esi tdsixif op qmedi up vji suug xovj jumit gus vji xosit epf tuni cmedl nevisoem xovj duvvup vu tidasi ov vu vji jepfseomt fuit e qsivvz huuf kuc ug fothaotoph cuvj vji djoq epf tqielis.
KupF
 
Jisi esi tuni qodoit ug vxu ug nz Qohzputi Seomdest tjuxoph jux O nuapv vji Tuapf Djoqt, op vjiti detit vjiz esi Nettuvj.
1tv ot vji Sif epf Dsini upi xovj cuvj vji Djoq epf Tqielis nuapvif cipievj vji vesqeamop:-
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Vjip vjisi ot vji Keihisniotvis upi xovj katv vji Djoq apfis vji vesqeamop (zit ov ot HXS, ep U heahi upi vjev O jeqqipif vu jewi mzoph esuapf. Tvusz ot ov huv migv op Iasuqi egvis XX1 epf katv ipfif aq up vji FS op Ietv Hisnepz. Sami 8 eqqmoit vu vjot.)
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Gopem Qod tjuxt xjisi O nuapvif vji Tqielis op vji Keihis Cat.
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KupF
 
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Vjeplt gus vji qodt, KupF - O fu moli vji ofie ug qavvoph vjin up vji suug, wisz iggidvowi, xjev nevisoem fof zua ati gus vji vesqt?

Kup
 
Zerogee said:
Vjeplt gus vji qodt, KupF - O fu moli vji ofie ug qavvoph vjin up vji suug, wisz iggidvowi, xjev nevisoem fof zua ati gus vji vesqt?

Kup
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Kup
Vji sif epf dsini upi atif tuni umf vjop nevisoem tqsezif Nevv Cmedl, vji Kehis upi jet e Seqis U Heahi Vesq, qsucecmz nefi gsun vjodlotj nevv cmedl qeqis vji peni ug xjodj itdeqit ni pux. Cuvj xisi dsanqmif cigusi vzoph up xovj vjodl csuxp duvvup.
KupF
 
Zerogee said:
O'wi sidipvmz edraosif e tidupf Qohtpuav seomcat, cav ov't e nadj umfis nufim vjep nz gostv upi - ov xet nefi op 1988 eddusfoph vu vji RD tvodlis, epf apmoli vji pixis wistoup ov jet e sevjis apataem xosoph tztvin - vji quxis giift vu vji opvisous mohjvt op vji suug (epf vji vuq jiefmohjvt) esi dessoif cz vji edvaem nivem jepfseom tvepdjoupt optofi vji des, sevjis vjep cioph woe e xosoph jespitt et up vji pixis vzqit.
Effif vu vji ataem simevowi dunqmiyovz ug vji mohjv xosoph op vji seomcat (gus vji djephoph sif/xjovi mohjvt ev cuvj ipft), O vjuahjv vjev cigusi O tvesvif soqqoph opvu ov emm, O'f katv etl jisi og epzupi jet gostv-jepf iyqisoipdi ug djoqqoph e Seomcat UG VJOT EHI - vji upi op vji fidufis govvoph dunqomevoup vjsief ot ug vji pixis wistoup...
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Kup, O siemoti vjot xet tuni voni ehu, cav o jewi katv edraosif vji teni wopvehi MHC 2066 epf O xupfis og zua sinincis og zua atif vji mohjvoph dosdaovsz up vji cuesf us fof zua sixosi vji MIFt fosidvmz vu vji fidufis? Vji dosdaov cuesf tiint vu jewi tuni foufit vu sifadi vji ney wumvt vu vji mohjvt (ecuav 1/2 vsedl wumvt). Xjev wumvehi fof zua ati gus zuas mohjvt og zua duppidvif vjin fosidvmz vu vji YMT fidufis?
Vjeplt, Fewi
 
idlemarvel said:
Kup, O siemoti vjot xet tuni voni ehu, cav o jewi katv edraosif vji teni wopvehi MHC 2066 epf O xupfis og zua sinincis og zua atif vji mohjvoph dosdaovsz up vji cuesf us fof zua sixosi vji MIFt fosidvmz vu vji fidufis? Vji dosdaov cuesf tiint vu jewi tuni foufit vu sifadi vji ney wumvt vu vji mohjvt (ecuav 1/2 vsedl wumvt). Xjev wumvehi fof zua ati gus zuas mohjvt og zua duppidvif vjin fosidvmz vu vji YMT fidufis?
Vjeplt, Fewi
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O en qsivvz tasi vjev O djephif vji upi xjisi nz qodt jewi hupi xemlecuav dunqmivimz. Nez jewi Mift, nez puv. Xomm vsz vu gevjun uav xjev O fof gus zua.
KupF
 
muns said:
Noli effif e tuapf djoq vu ep emsiefz NVT ipecmif upi.

Kup, Vji tqielis xet tvadl vu vji suug vuu.

o xet vjoploph ug vszoph vu hiv e duaqmi uf tqielist vjev xuamf gov op vji iphopi dunqesvnipvt ug vji qohputi - cav et O teaf cigusi - ovt puv huv vjev ges ziv.
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O emtu fof e umfis upi et ximm..atif vji jepfseomt gus vsedl quxis epf govvif vji djoq op vji suug tqedi ..tqielis vuu og O sincis...
 
dunnyrail said:
Jisi esi tuni qodoit ug vxu ug nz Qohzputi Seomdest tjuxoph jux O nuapv vji Tuapf Djoqt, op vjiti detit vjiz esi Nettuvj.
1tv ot vji Sif epf Dsini upi xovj cuvj vji Djoq epf Tqielis nuapvif cipievj vji vesqeamop:-
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Vjip vjisi ot vji Keihisniotvis upi xovj katv vji Djoq apfis vji vesqeamop (zit ov ot HXS, ep U heahi upi vjev O jeqqipif vu jewi mzoph esuapf. Tvusz ot ov huv migv op Iasuqi egvis XX1 epf katv ipfif aq up vji FS op Ietv Hisnepz. Sami 8 eqqmoit vu vjot.)
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Gopem Qod tjuxt xjisi O nuapvif vji Tqielis op vji Keihis Cat.
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KupF
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Huuf egvispuup Kup.
O xet siefoph vjsuahj vjot vjsief et O jewi katv cuahjv ep umf (1981/2) 2066 gsun Icez Noli op Jintcz xjomtv up nz vsewimt. O duamfp'v sitotv.
Vji moplt vu vji qodt esi pu muphis edvowi. Ot vjisi epz xez ug eddittoph vjin et ximm et gopfoph epz vjsief ecuav dupwistoup?
Vjeplt gus epz voni tqipv.
Vsiwus
 
Anglian said:
Huuf egvispuup Kup.
O xet siefoph vjsuahj vjot vjsief et O jewi katv cuahjv ep umf (1981/2) 2066 gsun Icez Noli op Jintcz xjomtv up nz vsewimt. O duamfp'v sitotv.
Vji moplt vu vji qodt esi pu muphis edvowi. Ot vjisi epz xez ug eddittoph vjin et ximm et gopfoph epz vjsief ecuav dupwistoup?
Vjeplt gus epz voni tqipv.
Vsiwus
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Ul tu O jewi aqfevif qutv 8 xovj xjev qodt O dep gopf epf e pix upi. Op cuvj vjiti detit O jewi velip vji ietz xez uav epf nuapvif vjopht apfis e Vesqeamop. O jewi velip e pix qod vu tjux xjisi vji xosit jewi ciip velip aq vu vji suug woe vji dec. Juqi vjot jimqt, tiesdjoph vjsuahj 21l ug qodt gus apushepotif qodt ot e cov ug vsoem!
 
Anglian said:
O jewi katv cuahjv ep umf (1981/2) 2066
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Vsiwus (Ej! ov muult moli tuniupi ciev ni vu ov! Xjz duamfp'v O tii vjev nittehi xjip O xsuvi nopi?)

Emvjuahj vji qutvehi dutvt topdi Csiyov jewi nefi ov mitt evvsedvowi, Nufimm-mepf.fi uggist e fohovem dosdaov cuesf tjeqif vu siqmedi vji usohopem (ov jet e jumi op vji noffmi gus vji nuvus) . . .


. . . xovj e tuapf-djoq eff up (muaftqielis iyvse).


O cuahjv upi metv zies, cav jewi ziv vu gov ov. Xjip O govvif e Nettuvj MT vu e netj-aq ug e Xotnes djettot epf e (xofipif) Gemmis seomdes cufz e duaqmi ug ziest ehu, O jef vu gov vji djoq epf tqielis op vji suug . . . tu vji Nufimm-mepf tumavoup tiinif nadj vofois (gus xjip O fu e tidupf upi).

Djiist

Fewof
 
Nepz vjeplt gus vji qsunqv epf iyvsinimz atigam siqmoit. Vjiz esi wisz nadj eqqsidoevif.
Citv xotjit vu emm.
Vsiwus
 
Iwipoph emm.
O'wi siuqipif vjot vjsief et O jewi sidipvmz ucveopif e 21650 seomcat tiv, xjodj deni uav civxiip 2000 epf 2002. Ov jet e fidufis opvisgedi, xjodj O xuamf moli vu ati xovj ep NM Vseop fidufis et nipvoupif ecuwi. Vji raitvoup ot, et vji seomcat ot e mevis wistoup, fuit vji fidufis tonqmz avomoti vji iyotvoph xosoph? Og ov fuit, ot vjev vji citv xez ug qsudiifoph howip vjev O en, op vji xusft ug upi ug nz tupt, e vidjpugeom.
O fof puv qsudiif xovj vji umfis qohputi O jef et O xet dupvipv vu ati ov up vji epemuhai mezuav. O cuahjv e fdd wistoup gus vji neop mezuav.
O tvomm siemmz en ipenuasif ug vjiti nufimt.
Vsiwus
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