jameshilton
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Tim, as usual inanely quick progress... It looks great! Happy weekend spent at the W&L for me, shame you couldn't make it in the end. Hope to see these new creations (finished?) in October when they visit my line?
Beyer Peacock 2-4-0T and other builds
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persistent_bodger
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The quick progress is due to having nothing to do while I am working in Scotland.. no responsibilities other than put the fire on and get the plasticard out
. I aim to get both of them finished including paint and lining by October and hopefully get a chance to give them a run on your line before I move back to London. I hope by then to have a wagon finished and maybe the railcar I mentioned a while ago. Unfortunately work commitments over the next few weeks will slow progress. Very disappointed I missed the W&L rly but there is always next year, some great shots on your blog.
Quick question: What do about lining the locomotives? is there anywhere I can get I.O.M rly lining from in this scale?
Any help much appreciated
best
Tim
. I aim to get both of them finished including paint and lining by October and hopefully get a chance to give them a run on your line before I move back to London. I hope by then to have a wagon finished and maybe the railcar I mentioned a while ago. Unfortunately work commitments over the next few weeks will slow progress. Very disappointed I missed the W&L rly but there is always next year, some great shots on your blog.Quick question: What do about lining the locomotives? is there anywhere I can get I.O.M rly lining from in this scale?
Any help much appreciated
best
Tim
jameshilton
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I think I'd try a lining pen - or didn't you make your own transfers for the 09 stuff?
persistent_bodger
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I've never tried lining pens, the transfers for the Groudle Glen locomotives were ok but because I will need white in the banding it won't be possible with these. I have thought about using Gauge 1 transfers if I can find some suitable
persistent_bodger
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I've been able to work on the Norwegian Railways 2-4-0T last night and this afternoon. Last jobs now are to add a dome, rivet the tanks, and add a brake handle and gauges in the cab. I am very pleased with the open cab detail which unfortunately doesn't show up well in the photographs. I think I will use GRS white metal couplings front and rear but also install a detachable LGB coupling for versatility.
Still undecided about the livery, either Norwegian 2 tone lined green or maroon lined similar to the MNRly.
Comments welcome
best
Tim
Still undecided about the livery, either Norwegian 2 tone lined green or maroon lined similar to the MNRly.
Comments welcome
best
Tim
brianthesnail96
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Both locos- and the coach- are fantastic. Looking forwards to seeing them painted!
jameshilton
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Tim wonderful - I look forward to seeing both of these new tanks in primer! Have you considered getting a circle of R1 to test run these whilst 'away' from home?
persistent_bodger
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Thank you Brian, James and Tony, it is very much appreciated. I hope to get both in primer by the weekend, just waiting on those extra rivets.
James, I had thought about that but I really can't buy anything more until I am back down south. The first run they will get will be on your line, I've made sure nothing catches on the chassis or bogie, my only worry now is if the motors work ok.
Best
Tim
James, I had thought about that but I really can't buy anything more until I am back down south. The first run they will get will be on your line, I've made sure nothing catches on the chassis or bogie, my only worry now is if the motors work ok.
Best
Tim
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I received my rivets this week so I can finally finish the two locomotives off. I've chosen colour schemes for both and once I've added the final details both will enter the paint shop.
I decided to have a little spend and purchased some IP engineering kits which will be bashed to form a weed killer train. The locomotive chassis pictured is scratchbuilt using IP engineering wheels motor and gear box. The rods and cylinders were made out of plasticard and brass. This will be a small battery operated locomotive based on a Kerr Stuart 'Wren' class. I've run the chassis and everything seems to be very smooth, not bad for a first total chassis scratch build. I've taken a few pictures next to an IP engineering flat wagon to show its size.
Last week I couldn't resist bidding on 'Marcus' an 0-4-2 LGB chassis with a GRS body. This had been listed before and sadly I was out bid, second time lucky and I am now its owner. The original idea was to repaint the loco and turn it into an 0-4-4, similar to a number of Irish prototypes.
Unfortunately the paint job leaved a lot to be desired so its been completely dismantled and sanded back. My idea is to convert the loco into a 4-4-0 tank by extending the front foot plate by the smoke box, adding a larger bunker and rebuilding the chassis with a front bogie. At present all details have been removed and the body has been treated to a good sand. I will add rivets and new banding and then treat it to a prime before rebuilding the chassis. I paid in total £86 including P&P which isn't bad when you consider the kits are over £100 not including a chassis. The old trailing bogie will be donated to a future Southwold Sharpie .
Comments welcome
Best
Tim
I decided to have a little spend and purchased some IP engineering kits which will be bashed to form a weed killer train. The locomotive chassis pictured is scratchbuilt using IP engineering wheels motor and gear box. The rods and cylinders were made out of plasticard and brass. This will be a small battery operated locomotive based on a Kerr Stuart 'Wren' class. I've run the chassis and everything seems to be very smooth, not bad for a first total chassis scratch build. I've taken a few pictures next to an IP engineering flat wagon to show its size.
Last week I couldn't resist bidding on 'Marcus' an 0-4-2 LGB chassis with a GRS body. This had been listed before and sadly I was out bid, second time lucky and I am now its owner. The original idea was to repaint the loco and turn it into an 0-4-4, similar to a number of Irish prototypes.
Unfortunately the paint job leaved a lot to be desired so its been completely dismantled and sanded back. My idea is to convert the loco into a 4-4-0 tank by extending the front foot plate by the smoke box, adding a larger bunker and rebuilding the chassis with a front bogie. At present all details have been removed and the body has been treated to a good sand. I will add rivets and new banding and then treat it to a prime before rebuilding the chassis. I paid in total £86 including P&P which isn't bad when you consider the kits are over £100 not including a chassis. The old trailing bogie will be donated to a future Southwold Sharpie .
Comments welcome
Best
Tim
jameshilton
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Ah I saw that on EBay too - should be a good basis for another bash. I look forward to seeing the other engines painted
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It doesn't seem that long ago but its almost 7 months later, I'm now nearly at the point of finishing all the locomotives started in this thread. I've been slowly working through each build taking time off from other projects. These are quite big engines and with space being at a premium it hasn't always been convenient to get them out.
First up we have 'Marcus' the blue loco from ebay or what used to be 'Marcus'. This was a trial attempt at producing an outside framed loco which after some cursing has been successfully converted into an Irish 3 ft gauge 4-4-0. The body was carefully sanded and then modified to allow an LGB otto chassis to be installed at the back. The cylinders were removed and placed at the front with a scratch built bogie slung underneath. I was going to buy GRS cranks but opted to construct my own using brass, odds from the scrap box and the original LGB crank pins. The frames are dummy built using 1,5mm plasticard.
I've been able to carefully weight the loco and after some test running it will enter the paint shop for nameplates and lining. This will be done using narrow planet custom plates and fox transfers 13mm BR lining packs.
The next project that needed finishing was the 0-4-0 tank I started using an IP Engineering motor and two wheels sets. After some thinking I opted for a freelance wing tank design which would be battery operated. The batteries and motor are located in the boiler which are accessed by opening the smoke box door. The operating switch is located on the firebox by the regulator and although obscured it is easy to operate. Most of the locomotive is made from 1.5mm plastcard with rivet detail and gauges from Cambrian models and the safety valves from GRS specialists. The livery is quite bright but this will be toned down with a light weathering.
This is by far the most advanced scratch build I've ever undertaken, having built everything bar the motor, wheels, battery and switch. To my suprise evreything runs really well so I'll definitely employ these techniques on other builds. Unfortunately the loco is very small for current stock so I'll be building a small weed killing train for it to pull.
Third on the list was the reason for starting the thread, this being my first 15mm scratch build. Unfortunately I had some huge problems with the paint which blistered on the boiler and tanks. Having left it for the best part of 6 months I sanded everything back, resprayed the damaged parts and lined with fox transfers. This time everything was fine, althoughSome how or other I scratched quite deeply the cab rear and although touched up I think a light sand maybe in order. I still need to add couplings, touch up some areas, lightly weather and add nameplates which are on order but all in all after the mini disaster its beginning to look the part.
Last is my Norwegian 2-4-0 which has just been rebuilt after a nasty fall. Having painted, lined and weathered the locomotive I left it on a cupboard in a warm room to harden. This seemed like the ideal place but I hadn't accounted for the effects of a warm environment on a small wooden tool box placed behind. The tool box had been acquired from a damp garage, it was I thought ideal for storing model making equipment and would look lovely once rewaxed and cleaned. I place this on top of the cupboard behind the loco to dry out before I restored it. Due to the wood shrinking the front fell forward knocking the 2-4-0 6feet onto the floor. This broke the chimney and small details which wasn't so bad but the front chassis frames snapped and distorted. After some head scratching I was able to re glue everything back together and insert brass bar to straighten the distorted sections. Although it is hard to notice the cab and boiler have been knocked off line which is sadly impossible to repair. I have kept a plan of all the parts so one day I can always make a replacement body.
And to finish I've included a shot of all four locomotives on what qualifies for my garden railway at the moment. I hope by the end of next month to have lined the 4-4-0 and attached name and works plates
Best
Tim
First up we have 'Marcus' the blue loco from ebay or what used to be 'Marcus'. This was a trial attempt at producing an outside framed loco which after some cursing has been successfully converted into an Irish 3 ft gauge 4-4-0. The body was carefully sanded and then modified to allow an LGB otto chassis to be installed at the back. The cylinders were removed and placed at the front with a scratch built bogie slung underneath. I was going to buy GRS cranks but opted to construct my own using brass, odds from the scrap box and the original LGB crank pins. The frames are dummy built using 1,5mm plasticard.
I've been able to carefully weight the loco and after some test running it will enter the paint shop for nameplates and lining. This will be done using narrow planet custom plates and fox transfers 13mm BR lining packs.
The next project that needed finishing was the 0-4-0 tank I started using an IP Engineering motor and two wheels sets. After some thinking I opted for a freelance wing tank design which would be battery operated. The batteries and motor are located in the boiler which are accessed by opening the smoke box door. The operating switch is located on the firebox by the regulator and although obscured it is easy to operate. Most of the locomotive is made from 1.5mm plastcard with rivet detail and gauges from Cambrian models and the safety valves from GRS specialists. The livery is quite bright but this will be toned down with a light weathering.
This is by far the most advanced scratch build I've ever undertaken, having built everything bar the motor, wheels, battery and switch. To my suprise evreything runs really well so I'll definitely employ these techniques on other builds. Unfortunately the loco is very small for current stock so I'll be building a small weed killing train for it to pull.
Third on the list was the reason for starting the thread, this being my first 15mm scratch build. Unfortunately I had some huge problems with the paint which blistered on the boiler and tanks. Having left it for the best part of 6 months I sanded everything back, resprayed the damaged parts and lined with fox transfers. This time everything was fine, althoughSome how or other I scratched quite deeply the cab rear and although touched up I think a light sand maybe in order. I still need to add couplings, touch up some areas, lightly weather and add nameplates which are on order but all in all after the mini disaster its beginning to look the part.
Last is my Norwegian 2-4-0 which has just been rebuilt after a nasty fall. Having painted, lined and weathered the locomotive I left it on a cupboard in a warm room to harden. This seemed like the ideal place but I hadn't accounted for the effects of a warm environment on a small wooden tool box placed behind. The tool box had been acquired from a damp garage, it was I thought ideal for storing model making equipment and would look lovely once rewaxed and cleaned. I place this on top of the cupboard behind the loco to dry out before I restored it. Due to the wood shrinking the front fell forward knocking the 2-4-0 6feet onto the floor. This broke the chimney and small details which wasn't so bad but the front chassis frames snapped and distorted. After some head scratching I was able to re glue everything back together and insert brass bar to straighten the distorted sections. Although it is hard to notice the cab and boiler have been knocked off line which is sadly impossible to repair. I have kept a plan of all the parts so one day I can always make a replacement body.
And to finish I've included a shot of all four locomotives on what qualifies for my garden railway at the moment. I hope by the end of next month to have lined the 4-4-0 and attached name and works plates
Best
Tim
Mallarddriver
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Hello Tim,
faaaannntasticccc locos, briliant work.
modelling in the upper class:love::love:
Kind regards
Soeren
faaaannntasticccc locos, briliant work.
modelling in the upper class:love::love:
Kind regards
Soeren
jameshilton
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Tim incredible conversions and I look forward to running the BP and the Irish 4-4-0 in next time I see you on the EJ&KLR 
I think the Norwegian tank is very well repaired indeed. These scratchbuilds are a credit to you
I think the Norwegian tank is very well repaired indeed. These scratchbuilds are a credit to you
garrymartin
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Those 4 loco's are top draw, real beauties. My favorite is the Irish tank, but they are all marvellous.
