Bachmann Lil Tank Loco

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I'm not much good at reviews, but here's my take on the new tank engine. Saddle tank it is not - more of a pannier to me. Anyway ....

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It came as a form of birthday pressy (I ordered it, SWMBO OK'd it). From Back2Bay at £49.99 I thought it had potential.

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It doesn't have piston rods - just con rods - but that shouldn't have long term problems (although I think the cylinders are way outside the line-up you'd expect for the motion).

The basic detailing is moulded in (like the handrails or bell - the latter would need surgical skills to remove as it is within the confining clutches of the tanks). The tanks are moulded in with the boiler, and the bottom third of the boiler splits away horizontally.


It has been mentioned (concerning other products in the range) about the coupling and height thereof. I had a spare coupling spacer from a Clarabell coach - also mentioned as a solution by somebody on the forum - and I fitted this.

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The rear pilot board had to be removed to facilitate this and, once a normal hook & loop coupling had been fitted, the board would not go back because it fouled the coupling. A Backmann knuckle coupling does provide clearance for the board (requires removal of tiny upstand on the rear of the board) and this is what it will receive when I get around to "normalising" this little loco!


There is no drawgear fittied to the front but, again, removal of the footboard (and a small square panel) reveals mountings for the range's couplings - again open to modification for more acceptable types.

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The basic cab has the firebox/backhead moulded details protruding into it and, I'm sure, a fine paintbrush and appropiate colours would bring out the said detailing.

It is brightly finished and, even if you didn't do much bashing, I think it needs toning down at least (if not a total repaint). It is an entry-level toy, looks smart for a toy, and should encourage people to consider it as an add-on to the Thomas range or a starter in its' own right.

It is quite light in weight (well under a Kilo I would think), and is four-wheel pick-up. Despite this (possibly because of the wheelbase), there was no stalling on turnouts and crossings. Once I had fitted the coupling, I was eager to try it out. I ran a train of my home-made stock (now used behind James) around the line.

It runs exceeedingly well around the level track (I have not run it on any gradients yet) and at very slow speeds as well. Even flat out its very acceptable - far superior to the characteristics of the Thomas range. So, in a word, it "trundles" around in a satisfying manner.

I have yet to try it out on an "all R1" layout (that will be Spring next year when I drag the trailer out maybe).
 
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On test ....

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I think it has potential as a shunter (switcher), or a contractors loco, or an industrial type. Or, more drastically, providing a brand new 0-4-0 chassis!

In the box was an exploded "parts" diagram, various multlingual Guarantee sheets, and the Bachmann registration card (for US & Canadian purchasers - this ought to be sorted Bachmann seen as you sell around the world) and a postcard advertising the Bachmann/Williams catalogue (same caveat as the guarantee card). No maintenance instructions.

The chimney pulls off and (I think) the chimney cap and safety valve - so thats why it has a 14+ sticker. So who is it aimed at? The 'apporth of tar' addage - they could easily have had a seperated bell moulding.!
 
a great review thanks !:thumbup:
 
PaulRhB said:
Excellent thanks, just need to get my hands on one and make some connecting rods and slide bars!
Ideal for my mini diversion in 7/8ths as a donor chassis.
Unless you made it to tramway standards Paul? You can see the way I'm thinking. :bigsmile::bigsmile:

Well done Bachmann I say, just the way to get people started in our scales. :thumbup::thumbup:
 
Mmmm, the motor blocks from two of these = the running gear for a BoBo diesel complete with whizzy cranks!
The leftover body from one might then be a good starting point for something roughly the shape of the Darjeeling B that I've wanted to do for a while, mated to something like a Stainz chassis.....

Lots of potential, both for bashing AND as a way of getting the youngsters into the scale. Very good move by Bachmann, hope it works well for them.

Jon.
 
It's a rather odd water tank design - as Mick said in the first post, more of a pannier than saddle, but not really either..... did this kind of "split saddle" actually exist on any real loco?

Jon.
 
J2s said:
Hi Mick, interesting stuff, thanks for sharing.
Any chance you could run a ruler over it for us?
Particular interest is wheelbase, length, height etc.

Hi - right allowing for eyesight :-

Overall width over cab window cills =
106mm (the cylinders stick out a little more - around 1.0mm each side.

Length (not including coupling/s) from rear of cab roof to front of pilot board =
250mm

Height (from rail head to chimney top) =
144mm

Wheel centres = approx 67mm (but nearer 68mm)

Wheel dia. = 34mm

Boiler dia 48mm but, as tanks are part of the same moulding, the o'all width is 100mm.

Hope this helps. Also see next posting below ...
 
Zerogee said:
Mmmm, the motor blocks from two of these = the running gear for a BoBo diesel complete with whizzy cranks!
The leftover body from one might then be a good starting point for something roughly the shape of the Darjeeling B that I've wanted to do for a while, mated to something like a Stainz chassis.....

Lots of potential, both for bashing AND as a way of getting the youngsters into the scale. Very good move by Bachmann, hope it works well for them.

Jon.

Right - here's a pic of the underside of the frame. Shows brass worm and nylon wheel of vertical mounted motor.

Also a photo of the exploded diagram showing how integral the boiler mounting and the frames are to the whole assembly.

Hope this is of use.

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If anyone PM'd for better details of a particular section of the drawing I could forward by return PM. Not sure how I'd stand posting a scan of the original in public (so to speak) although it doesn't sport any copyright marks.
 
ROSS said:
It's printed in China Mick......as if THEY consider anything copyright:rolf::rolf:

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I was smitten when i saw the promo pics.
I love dimunitive locos in g scale. And I like the shape of what i see here, as well as the tender version in another thread.

But, even for me, allowing for great modeler's license and whimsy, I have a hard time with no main rods into the pistons.
It is the essence of a steam engine.

And having a single drive axel, I am thinking "Do I want to invest into a bash".


Perhaps I need the others on the forum to show me what the real potential is.
I am certain that with some 'down and out paint' and heavy weathering the character would change entirely.

Still need those main rods though for me to get over the mental hump.
 
MRail said:
Wonder if the boiler/tanks would take a battery pack?

I had to take a look (not that I'm contemplating going down that road at the moment) and think that you would easily get six AA batteries in if they were hard wired rather in battery boxes.

A twin AA box will go in the tank (length no problem) but the box is flush with the edge of the tank and the "floor" of the tank needs to go up into the tank. This means it will not sit down correctly. AAA twin boxes won't have a problem.

So two AA's either side and two in the front of the boiler.

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And I think at 7.2v it will do rather well - considering I only had the Bachmann controller opened to 30% of its potential.
 
Thanks Mick - the extra pics and internal shots are very useful. Sadly it looks less useable now, because the power unit is so much an integral part of the structure rather than being a separate motor block... but there are still possibilities!

Jon.
 
Zerogee, yes split tanks were used quite frequently in the US it just doesn't show from the low angle in many shots.
As far as the missing piston and connecting rods it depends on how easy the rear crank is to extend. The coupling rods will power the second axle so don't worry about a lack of gears driving both it works on real engines fine and means they don't suffer from incorrectly aligned axles by one tooth like LGB do.
It looks like the motor is through a hole so does that black piece also come off? Otherwise it would make a good platform for a new body, especially tramway prototypes as Mel suggested ;)
 
FYI the Bachmann rep told me that the basis of these was the old Porter engine and that the driver and siderods from the Porter should be modifiable to this engine, I am waiting getting ahold of one of these so I can test that.
 
vsmith said:
FYI the Bachmann rep told me that the basis of these was the old Porter engine and that the driver and siderods from the Porter should be modifiable to this engine, I am waiting getting ahold of one of these so I can test that.

That's interesting Vic. I have one of the Porters - I'll have to check it out.
 
PaulRhB said:
Zerogee, yes split tanks were used quite frequently in the US it just doesn't show from the low angle in many shots.
As far as the missing piston and connecting rods it depends on how easy the rear crank is to extend. The coupling rods will power the second axle so don't worry about a lack of gears driving both it works on real engines fine and means they don't suffer from incorrectly aligned axles by one tooth like LGB do.
It looks like the motor is through a hole so does that black piece also come off? Otherwise it would make a good platform for a new body, especially tramway prototypes as Mel suggested ;)

Yes it does come off. When I took the last pics it was difficult for me to seperate the parts completely because of the wires for the headlight.

Daylight was fading, and with my (no) skills approach to photography, I carried the loco outside to photograph - hence I put things 'back together' to carry it out:rolf:

The exploded diagram shows the seperation:-

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I might ask (PaulRhb) if there are any links to photos of similar engines in use so that I might convert from an acceptable toy to a presentable model?
 
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