Aster Old Faithful still not working,When Connecting rod attached wheels lock up when piston reaches top of cylinder.

Something definitely not right on the rear wheel quartering seems wrong somehow, concentrate on the rear wheel alignment, as the pistons seem to be working. Or make sure that's
there's enough play in the con rod
 
Thank you Paul.
Yes I don’t have the know how to repair tho I do have original Assembly manual, Any suggestions.
 
Daft suggestion, if you have had thr rear axle out, it could be the wrong way around. Take it back out and flip it.
 
Nodrog1826 said:
Daft suggestion, if you have had thr rear axle out, it could be the wrong way around. Take it back out and flip it.
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Exactly my thoughts, quartering is key but messing with only one rod in will never work either as the system needs the second rod to get all working smoothly.

Rob1962 Rob1962 forcing will not help and could be causing the rear wheel axle to move putting things even more out sf sync.

Put it all back together, get one side Rods fully down then look at the other side are both wheels at the same angle with the rods not slightly lifted or dropped one end? You may need to do this on a perfectly flat site using a metal ruler to check the height of the rods from surface to rod by the big end each end.
 
In the video, you slip the rod on, but the positions of the wheels don't match..
Get the cranks and pins in the same position on one side, then slip the crank on.

PhilP.
 
Thank you.Still not following you, gentlemen.I never touched the rear axles.This engine barely ran when steamed up. All I did was try to figure out where the binding on the front wheels was coming from by undoing the connecting rods and pins,Please bear in mind I’m familiar with live steam but not loco/quartering.The axles, both front and rear, are nice and tight on the wheels.Please keep the advice a little more detailed on how to fix this issue.I do understand what you mean, I just am not sure how exactly to achieve it.

Thank you for all assistance moving forward.
 
At 1.47 where you show the drive has locked, the front drive axle is at just past the 3 o'clock position and the rear driven axle is just before the 3 o'clock position. At this point there is very little rotational force on the rear axle and you might expect it to lock. It needs the connecting rod on the other side to rotate the rear axle at that position.

Can we be sure that the quartering is spot on? Connecting pins at 12 o'clock on one side and at either 3 o'clock or 9 o'clock on the other side.

A couple of photos showing each side (without moving the wheels) would be helpful.

You said that the locomotive runs on blocks - So it does work but only when it is not loaded as it is when on rollers.

Does that sound like a tight axle?

AL
 
On your video, you are only connecting the rods on one side.

You need to connect the rods on both sides to get the quartering to work.

I can see that the rods are not parallel and this will cause the locking up....
 
First of all thank you,So I should have one side of pins secured at 12 and the other side pins at 3 is this correct .?
 
Imagine In this day and age I cannot locate on Youtube a person at his/Her Workbench filming how to Quarter their Loco.
 
Rob1962 said:
Imagine In this day and age I cannot locate on Youtube a person at his/Her Workbench filming how to Quarter their Loco.
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The timing os all located in how he piston holes are. You say that it runs ok in blocks, was this with just the front wheels and the rear ones not connected by the rods?

If so when you connect the rear wheels and running not smooth suggests that the so called quartering is out. With a waggly piston locomotive that does not have a lot of power this can be most crucial.

Have you tried my suggestion in Post #5?
 
dunnyrail said:
The timing os all located in how he piston holes are. You say that it runs ok in blocks, was this with just the front wheels and the rear ones not connected by the rods?

If so when you connect the rear wheels and running not smooth suggests that the so called quartering is out. With a waggly piston locomotive that does not have a lot of power this can be most crucial.

Have you tried my suggestion in Post #5?
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Not as of yet so am i to understand that if the pins on one side of loco at 12 oclock then the other side pins i want at 3 o clock by eye is exactly what i am trying to achieve.
 
Rob1962 said:
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There's your problem yes.

I think the front axle is wrong and the rear one is fine.

The front axle has the crank at 9 O'clock on both sides, i.e. 180 degrees out.

It should be 90 degrees.

So I recok the front axle has been assembled incorrectly....
 
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