Aristocraft slow motion point motors

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In the eight years since I built my railway, I have been using LGB point motors with Aristocraft points. However, almost all of those point motors are rusted internally and most are beyond repair. I am therefore looking at replacing all eight of them with Aristocraft Slow Motion point motors (ART-11298).

Has anyone tried them? How are they operated? Is it by reversing a DC voltage? Is there any risk of them burning out if a piece of ballast jams them open? How weather proof are they?

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Peter
 

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The Aristocraft slow motion point motors are almost a copy of the train li point motors, and at about the same price I'd take the original from Train-Li
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Is it by reversing a DC voltage?

Not a 100% sure but the Train Engineer Points Module is a DC device, so I would expect the motors to be likewise.

Surprised to hear that the LGB ones have gone rusty inside. I use several of these without problems. I give them a squirt of WD40 (Palmerston will be shuddering at the thought!) if required? Maybe this has helped....
 

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my lgb points always get a squirt of oil on the slides, and the motors do quite often too.... been working for 6 years all in all now. i do however fancy slow motion motors!
 

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Haven't tried the new one but the old Aristo point motor was poor for reliability and noise. I replaced all mine with LGB motors and have had no problems.
 

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Li Trains are now doing a DC/DCC slow motion drive, a little more expensive but with a built in decoder for two wire operation.
 

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I have tried the new Aristo slow motion point motor on a large radius GRS point which normally takes two lgb point motors throw, the slow motion motor has the force but the power from Train Engineer point controller operates the motor for to shorter time to fully throw. It seems to require 2 seconds of power. The motors came packaged with a dpdt switch on a short multi core lead and components such as power transistors? attached in heat shrink tubing presumably to give the timed plus of power when the switch is thrown, not very water proof, difficult to a accommodate and requires its own power supply. The circuit board sticking out of the motor also looks vulnerable and difficult to water proof, I quickly went back to the lgb motors.

I am open to suggestions but until a switch driver for the slow motion motor comes out my one is likely to remain in a cupboard!
 

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When I started motorising points I used Lamaco slow motion motors. They operated very prototypically and I really liked them, but they are just not up to bad weather operation. They were powerful enough, but snow, rain and so on, not up to it. I still have an unused one in its packet
 

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I have seen those used even on submarines so I assume they must work.
 

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ROSS said:
Glengrant said:
When I started motorising points I used Lamaco slow motion motors. They operated very prototypically and I really liked them, but they are just not up to bad weather operation. They were powerful enough, but snow, rain and so on, not up to it. I still have an unused one in its packet

I still have 6 unused..Just have to figure a way to winterize/waterproof em!
Seems the model boat guys have this taped for the boats RC gear.
Must investigate. I believe they use a "concertina" rubber or plastic gland to stop the ingress of moisture.
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Well Ross if you have any success I'd be obliged if you would let me into the secret, I really liked them
Cyril
 

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I might be tempted to add two of them to each lgb point motor, to help with sealing them. It's not so much water thats a problem, it's dust and crawlies making a home in there.
 

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nicebutdim said:
I might be tempted to add two of them to each lgb point motor, to help with sealing them. It's not so much water thats a problem, it's dust and crawlies making a home in there.

You could use tape, a non conductive grease, or a small amount of silicon paste to seal the holes....
 

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I am open to suggestions but until a switch driver for the slow motion motor comes out my one is likely to remain in a cupboard!
Sounds like it was designed to work with the TE Revolution and not much else. I think you can adjust the power time for points on the revolution.