Another German ebay question...

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Evening guys, I've come across this seller on Ebay.de. On the last line of each item it says:-
Anwendug der differenzbesteuerung gem § 25a.

This seems to translate to roughly:-
This article is subject to differential taxation according to. § 25a.

What does it mean? I've not come across anything like this before? Is there a tax included? Do i pay extra? Just about to ask the seller if I get no joy here.

Thanks :)

http://www.ebay.de/itm/LGB-21741-21...dellbau_Modelleisenbahnen&hash=item4166a4fc26
 
No the taxes have been paid and cannot be reclaimed / redeemed. It's just German legal jargon but seeing as Keppler are a registered company and not a private seller they have to put in the legal mumbo jumbo.
I've bought from them a few times, no probs.
 
Cheers, I can now carry on bidding with knowing what I'll be paying. Had used a few other German business sellers before but none of them had used that terminology...
 
As he's willing to post worldwide, it MAY be a reference to the fact that if it goes outside the EU then VAT will be deducted (as he seems to be a VAT-registered business seller). As far as I can see, German VAT (at 19% I believe) is included and that should be all you will have to pay, as a purchase from one EU state to another.

Jon

Edit: Pugwash posted his reply while I was still typing mine! :bigsmile:
 
Just a notice for non-EU residents: for used items (like the one in this post) the VAT can not be deducted. Only new items are subjected to the VAT mumbo jumbo.
 
Ah, OK, so exactly the opposite of my guess! ;)

Useful to know, though of course it doesn't affect UK residents at all.

It does strike me as a little odd, though - if he's selling them as a VAT-registered trader, then he must be charging VAT as part of the price, and therefore I thought he was legally bound to deduct it if shipping outside the EU - whether he's selling a new OR used item. I suppose it might be something like a commission sale on behalf of a customer?

Jon.
 
Zerogee said:
It does strike me as a little odd, though - if he's selling them as a VAT-registered trader, then he must be charging VAT as part of the price, and therefore I thought he was legally bound to deduct it if shipping outside the EU - whether he's selling a new OR used item. I suppose it might be something like a commission sale on behalf of a customer?

Jon.
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Not odd Jon. It's part of what in the UK is called the VAT margin scheme for second hand goods. The German seller is doing things correctly for an item purchased from a private individual.
 
Correctomundo, once VAT has been paid by an end purchaser it cannot be reclaimed even by someone who is VAT registered. Unless their name is 'Government' or 'God' who seem to be the only two entities that can do what they want :rolleyes:
Now if the same seller had a brand new item where no VAT has been paid he would sell it without VAT if it was going out of the EU (the buyer would have to pay the relevant tax in his own country) or if it was sold to someone within the EU who is VAT declared (like me) otherwise if it was being sold to an end purchaser living within the EU the purchaser would have to pay the VAT.
After that it starts to get complex :confused:
 
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