A small 0-6-0 tank on a PIKO motor

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Recently I visited a local hobby shop with some mates for THEM to make some purchases. I wasn't there to buy anything, but this PIKO 0-6-0 motor block took my fancy for AUD 110. The two outer axles are driven, and the centre axle wheels are flanged but have about 5mm side play. Connecting rods not supplied. Wheels are 35 mm dia at a spacing of 57mm.
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I wasn?t too impressed with it once I got it home. As usual I start off by doing some bench electrical tests. Takes 400 mA with its wheels in the air - ie the motor and friction losses. That's over twice Aristo blocks? current.
Then I tried holding the wheels to get the stalled current, but I could hear the gears slipping. I noticed that 2 screws were missing from the top plate, so I assumed the looseness is a problem.
On the track, it couldn?t pull the skin off a rice pudding.
At least it's easy to pull apart. I took the top plate off and added a bit of cardboard to provide more force onto the motor and put in 4 screws. Also no grease on any gears, so added some Vaseline.
While it was apart, I took the wheel pickups and skates off as I will use battery power.

Once I removed the skates it was better. With 300g weight on it could take 3 bogie wagons up 1:25 easy, taking 900mA. I only tested it at that load as it will be a small loco.

Speed worked out at around 4 to 5 kph per volt, so 50 kph will need a 10V (8 NiMH cell) battery.
My original thoughts were to make a 2-6-0 tender loco, but I saw this pic of a NSW small tank from the 1880s.
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It had no dome and inside cylinders so will save me a lot of work making those! It will be for my granddaughter to use. I thought of just a simple forward/off/reverse switch, but I had a spare 433 MHz RC unit so will use it, with a Picaxe for motor control and sound. (If it works OK and is not too power hungry, and can pull a decent load, maybe I?ll buy another motor block for a 2-6-0.)

Planning[/H2] My usual method of drawing the plans is to take a side-on pic of the wheels and of the loco. I then crop the loco below the running board and paste both in to Word. If I adjust the screen ?%? (?zoom?) to 68%, the screen prints full size on A4 paper.
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I shortened the drawing to suit the wheelbase, then I found I had to stretch the tanks to 110mm to take two, AA cells along ? there will be 4 in each tank. I had to stretch the height so the boiler was the 57mm OD for the tube I had. And stretch the cab a little to fit the speaker in.
Then I used Word Draw to outline around the pic to get a simple, full-size drawing.
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Now the hardest part for me - how to fit everything in and be able to access it, with the minimum number of plugs and sockets. This planning usually takes more time than building it !
As you can see, the only place I could fit a speaker is a 50mm type in the cab floor. The electronics will be in the boiler above the motor block. This way everything will be mounted in the body of the loco with just a 2pin plug to the motor. The On/off switch will be glued under cab and charging pins under rear buffer beam. The whole body will lift off the motor block and be held on by 3 screws from underneath.

Getting started[/H2] Finally I actually started work. First I needed a way of supporting the body on the motor block, so I contact glued 2 pieces of 18x18mm aluminium angle across the front and rear of the motor block.
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The running board was cut out of 1.5mm styrene. Then strengthened with 3 more strips of 1.5mm glued underneath it lengthways. Wooden dumb buffers (my standard) glued to ends. This pic is the underside ? not very pretty is it?
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Then time to start on the body, using 1.5mm styrene ? I?m using black more often these days.
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The boiler is a piece of 57 mm OD plastic pipe. The smokebox is 0.5mm styrene with rivets embossed and contact glued around the boiler. I turned the funnel from a bit of 15mm dia elec conduit. And some styrene strips for the cap. And that?s the basic ?carcasse? finished.
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Now for some detail, the tanks are clad with 0.5mm styrene with rivets embossed with a tracing tool.
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Now the cab roof. I always find these curves the most difficult. I?ve tried heating styrene to bend it, but I can?t get it to work reliably. So I use two layers of 0.5mm styrene glued together to hold the shape. First, the ?under? roof piece is lightly scribed with lines 2-3mm apart.
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This cause a natural curvature. Then it?s glued to a couple of 1.5mm styrene formers cut to shape (black in photo).
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Then the 2nd piece of roof is curved a bit with my fingers and glued to the first.
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When ?really? dry it?s pretty strong, but I added a 3rd piece of 0.5mm on the inside as it has to be handled by my grand-daughter. The whole roof is a push-fit inside the cab sides.

A bit of detail for the firebox with drawing pin (pressure gauge) and press-studs for wheels. A piece of wire for the water gauge.
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The wheels have strange square-and-round holes for the coupling rods. Luckily I found that these little ?joiners? for garden irrigation pipe were a push-fit into the holes and the right internal size for a 1/8? tap. The coupling rods are copper-clad electronics board.
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I made the steps from the same copper board and soldered brass angle. Experience has taught me that anything below the running board is really prone to damage, so make it strong!
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Now I?m ready for the really scary part ? painting. This is where I usually wreck all my good work.
Washed well in warm soapy water and left to dry for 2 days.
Then a coat of grey undercoat.
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Now to decide on a colour................
 

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Great model!
 

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Really inspirational and informative, thanks Greg.

I've been planning a couple of loco scratchbuilds for a while and needed something like this to spur me into action. Those details such as embossing the rivets and curving the cab roof are really useful - as is using Word draw for translating the picture into a plan.

Really looking forward to the next instalment. Brilliant!

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Very impressive work. Particularly like the water gauge from a scrap of wire.

Was the prototype built in Aus. or an import from Britain? The design looks very North Eastern Railway, with a slight dash of industrial loco thrown in at the cab end.
 

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That's simply brilliant! :clap: It looks absolutely "spot on".
 

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Wow....that's very nice!
 

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Very well made love the tool for making the rivit details :clap:
 

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Great stuff Greg. I'll be interested to hear how the motor block performs.
 

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ge_rik said:
Really inspirational and informative, thanks Greg.

I've been planning a couple of loco scratchbuilds for a while and needed something like this to spur me into action. Those details such as embossing the rivets and curving the cab roof are really useful - as is using Word draw for translating the picture into a plan.

Really looking forward to the next instalment. Brilliant!

Rik

Thanks Rik. Hope it motivates you!
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Was the prototype built in Aus. or an import from Britain? The design looks very North Eastern Railway, with a slight dash of industrial loco thrown in at the cab end.
It was Aussie built, but a classic stuff-up. Ordered as a 2-4-0T with steam dome. Built as a 0-6-0 and no dome!
 

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What a cracker !!! lovelly a how about a terrier oh and don,t worry about paint job best bit:clap:
 

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Thats looking good Greg!

Regards from Andrew at Sandbar & Mudcrab
 

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Gareth said:
What a cracker !!! lovelly a how about a terrier oh and don,t worry about paint job best bit:clap:

Like Greg, I find painting the most challenging and least predictable part of the modelling process. I've started another thread in the painting and weathering section seeking advice and guidance from those who are more confident in this area to share their experiences to help me (and maybe Greg) along.

http://www.gscalecentral.net/tm?m=94146

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I think I've decided on this Cadbury purple colour scheme with white lettering and lines, and a bit of copper/gold. But what colours for the wheels and coupling rid? Usually I leave them black but maybe this time I could be different.
ANY IDEAS??????
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That is a cracking build Greg:clap::clap:
 

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A few days ago, I masked off the main boiler and sprayed the smokebox with satin black.

BUT while waiting for that paint to dry, I made a major planning change. Considering its use by a 3 year old, I decided against full Radio control and will just go with the simple forward/off/reverse switch on top of the boiler. I soldered up 4 NiMH cells and mounted them in one side tank. I?ll have to put some counterweight in the other tank. The DPDT centre-off switch screws into the boiler plastic from below and I?ll disguise the switch actuator as a brass whistle. Charging points are my usual studs under the back buffers, for alligator clips to attach to.
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Maybe in the future it will get the full RC treatment. I?m still considering putting in a simple chuff sound since I went to all the trouble of mounting the speaker in the cab floor.

Also while waiting, I finished off the firebox. The pressure gauge is drawn using Word Draw, printed and glued to the drawing pin head.
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A few bits of styrene tube and a coil of wire for the safety valve. Toothpaste tube caps for the water fillers. As it will be handled by kids, I?ve left off lots of detail like handrails, compressor, headlight and generator.

Finally a nice, fine and warm day so I masked the black parts and took all the hints into account about doing many light coats. and everything has turned out fine. I guess I can sum up the recipe for painting as CLEANLINESS AND PATIENCE.
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I?ll use white stick-on vinyl for the lining and the vinyl letters/numbers have been ordered from Del at Gscale Graphics. He does very good work, albeit a bit expensive. By the time they arrive the paint will be good and dry.

Final pics will follow when the paint is well dry.
 

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The lettering has arrived and it?s all finished.
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I put in a simple Picaxe sound system.
So there we have it. $110 for the motor. About $5 worth of styrene, $10 for sound and $10 for batteries. $12 for paint and $10 for lettering.

Here?s a short video of it running.
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I hope Lexie likes it.
 

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Nice job Greg.

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Excellent Greg.

Really a great project. You should be proud.