Two very delicate little figurine models in whitemetal to assemble and paint. Do I prime first? I'm hoping to use Humbrol paints. Should I assemble the models first, or paint the separate parts, then assemble. I imagine a few of you will know what models I am referring to. I must say I thought these would come in a finished state, but no so let's try to do the best I can
Whitemetal models
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Zerogee
Clencher's Bogleman
They wouldn't be some of the old "Phoenix Phollies" or Mascot miniatures, would they by any chance....? 
Definitely assemble and prime, THEN paint.
Whatever they are, the process with multipart metal figures is generally the same; clean up the castings as necessary (remove any mould lines, flash and sprue parts with a scalpel and fine file or emery board), make sure everything fits together snugly and neatly, then assemble with either rapid epoxy or a good gel superglue. When dry, fill any gaps (if necessary) with either fine grade Milliput or Greenstuff putty; if the kit is well designed and cast, the need for this should be minimal. Once you are happy that everything is assembled, filled and cleaned up, and of course thoroughly dried and set, I would prime it with a spray can - there are many techniques of figure painting, and if I was doing military figures I would usually prime in BLACK and then paint/drybrush/wash on top of that, but if these figures are what I think they are, then you'd probably be better using WHITE as a primer colour. Then paint away! Acrylics will be much better than enamels, if you have a nearby large town that has a Games Workshop store then brave the horde of spotty teenagers (both customers AND staff...) and go take a look at their range of paints and inks/washes, their stuff isn't cheap but their paints are very good and they have an excellent colour range.
If we're on the same wavelength about what these figures are, you'll most definitely be needing plenty of a good flesh tone....
Jon.
Definitely assemble and prime, THEN paint.
Whatever they are, the process with multipart metal figures is generally the same; clean up the castings as necessary (remove any mould lines, flash and sprue parts with a scalpel and fine file or emery board), make sure everything fits together snugly and neatly, then assemble with either rapid epoxy or a good gel superglue. When dry, fill any gaps (if necessary) with either fine grade Milliput or Greenstuff putty; if the kit is well designed and cast, the need for this should be minimal. Once you are happy that everything is assembled, filled and cleaned up, and of course thoroughly dried and set, I would prime it with a spray can - there are many techniques of figure painting, and if I was doing military figures I would usually prime in BLACK and then paint/drybrush/wash on top of that, but if these figures are what I think they are, then you'd probably be better using WHITE as a primer colour. Then paint away! Acrylics will be much better than enamels, if you have a nearby large town that has a Games Workshop store then brave the horde of spotty teenagers (both customers AND staff...) and go take a look at their range of paints and inks/washes, their stuff isn't cheap but their paints are very good and they have an excellent colour range.
If we're on the same wavelength about what these figures are, you'll most definitely be needing plenty of a good flesh tone....
Jon.
Well now chaps, just having come back from t'pub, I digest your input, and I now hope I know where I am going. I think it is steinman who has got the correct range, it is Metal Modeles, and a few pics have appeared in the Forum of these lovely ladies. Do not at least one of you have a complete brothel, err, sorry, ladies of pleasure establishment? I am only going for the two, if you will pardon the expression, and if they do not reach the standards that some of you desire, especially Ross, then it won't matter too much. Isn't model railways fun? Seriously, thanks for your advice
Zerogee
Clencher's Bogleman
Metal Modeles may be the current owner/manufacturer (or they may just be a stockist, because I think an Italian firm also makes/sells them), but they originated in the UK as the Phollies range from Phoenix Models, back in the '70s/'80s. They were all sculpted by Tim Richards (who I knew personally in the 80s, he did some work for me but in a smaller scale). The Phollies range were followed by the Mascot Miniatures and Starlight Miniatures ranges, also both by Tim, and depicting subjects that were even naughtier than the Phollies - while the Phoenix figures were cheeky tittilation on a "Carry-On" level (like the Postwoman above), some of the Mascot and Starlight pieces were positively hardcore..... 8|
Dare I ask which two you have, Cyril?
Dare I ask which two you have, Cyril?
Zerogee said:Metal Modeles may be the current owner/manufacturer (
Dare I ask which two you have, Cyril?
The two I plumped for if you'll pardon the expression are BX41, Jolie Prise, a delightful lady who is standing up to her knees in a river, she is rod-fishing and the hook has caught in her skirt revealing her, umm, err nickers, and BX62 Golfeuse. a lady golfer, and upon reflection we could have used her on the European side at the Ryder Cup, for distractiuon purposes if nothing else. I daren't go for any more, the missus who was brought up rather correctly, I would say, already has me marked down as a pathetic ageing over-sexed prevert
Zerogee
Clencher's Bogleman
Glengrant said:Zerogee said:Metal Modeles may be the current owner/manufacturer (
Dare I ask which two you have, Cyril?
The two I plumped for if you'll pardon the expression are BX41, Jolie Prise, a delightful lady who is standing up to her knees in a river, she is rod-fishing and the hook has caught in her skirt revealing her, umm, err nickers, and BX62 Golfeuse. a lady golfer, and upon reflection we could have used her on the European side at the Ryder Cup, for distractiuon purposes if nothing else. I daren't go for any more, the missus who was brought up rather correctly, I would say, already has me marked down as a pathetic ageing over-sexed prevert
A couple of excellent choices, Cyril! I have one of the French Maids (beautifully painted, bought on eBay ready-finished) and several more that are built but could do with a repaint, including the milkmaid, the jogger, the schoolgirl and the hitchhiker.
I can tell you a little anecdote told to me first-hand by Tim Richards, the sculptor of these pieces: many years ago he was helping out at the Phoenix tradestand at a model soldier show (they used to do some more "serious" military subjects as well as the "cheesecake"), and one chap had enthusiastically bought one of the Phollies girls earlier in the day; apparently towards the end of the show, this same chap sidled back up to the stand clutching the anonymous brown paper bag that his figure had been wrapped in, and very sheepishly asked if he could return it for a refund - admitting that his wife had taken one look at it and ordered him to take it back!
I consider myself very lucky in that I have a very understanding and broad-minded SWMBO who has no problem at all with that kind of thing - as anyone who has seen my office and workshop walls will testify (Hi, Mike....)! Mind you, while I don't have to smuggle magazines and calendars into the house, the same cannot always be said for big red boxes!!
Jon.
Zerogee said:ROSS said:......a true Scottish selection......golfer and fisher.....
Only needs a caber tosser to complete the set..... oo-er missus.....
(Who but the Scots could make a sport out of upending a telegraph pole....??)
Jon.
Caber tosser, hmm, yes mate, better watch it or we could be excomunicated. Schoolgirl, oh yeah, understand a certain maths teacher who is in the news just now originally hails from Aberdeenshire, although he practised his trade, as it were, in Eastbourne.
Just a heads-up for the keen followers of this thread (you know what I mean!), there's some plasic figures which fit the theme marketed as "Motor Head Miniatures".
They're designed for the 1:18th diecast car market and available on fleabay........
As an example, here's a local celeb' at a recent naming ceremony
They're designed for the 1:18th diecast car market and available on fleabay........
As an example, here's a local celeb' at a recent naming ceremony
Hobo said:Just a heads-up for the keen followers of this thread (you know what I mean!), there's some plasic figures which fit the theme marketed as "Motor Head Miniatures".
They're designed for the 1:18th diecast car market and available on fleabay........
As an example, here's a local celeb' at a recent naming ceremony
Oh wow I see that in your second pic the sticks are up, know what I mean, geddit? Oh heck, we might need an over 16 section of this forum
Any news about the golfing and fishing ladies?
When preparing whitemetal figures for painting, I clean off all flash and give them a bath in whitemetal blackener. After rinsing them in plenty of water I assemble them and give it a light drybrush coat with white acrylics.
The lady on the right, from the Spanish Andrea Pin Up series (Watch The Birdie!), claims to be in 1 : 22, but actually tends more towards 1 : 18/19 scale, as you can see in relation to the 16mm scale Phoenix figure in the middle.
Have Fun
Juergen / Otter 1
When preparing whitemetal figures for painting, I clean off all flash and give them a bath in whitemetal blackener. After rinsing them in plenty of water I assemble them and give it a light drybrush coat with white acrylics.
The lady on the right, from the Spanish Andrea Pin Up series (Watch The Birdie!), claims to be in 1 : 22, but actually tends more towards 1 : 18/19 scale, as you can see in relation to the 16mm scale Phoenix figure in the middle.
Have Fun
Juergen / Otter 1
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Otter 1 said:Any news about the golfing and fishing ladies?
When preparing whitemetal figures for painting, I clean off all flash and give them a bath in whitemetal blackener. After rinsing them in plenty of water I assemble them and give it a light drybrush coat with white acrylics.
The lady on the right, from the Spanish Andrea Pin Up series (Watch The Birdie!), claims to be in 1 : 22, but actually tends more towards 1 : 18/19 scale, as you can see in relation to the 16mm scale Phoenix figure in the middle.
Have Fun
Juergen / Otter 1
Are you sure about the scale? She may just be a "bigger" girl!
Woderwick
Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club
I give up
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What's with the echo Wod? Ah, Wod fixed the echo. Who said that?
I usually paint on the sprue, assemble, swear profusely then touch up.
The best example of this was the 1/24 Preiser firemen, I painted the parts that needed gluing together and the (BBC beep) glue from Preiser didn't stick, heads and and members everywhere.
I now paint, stick and then swear.
I usually paint on the sprue, assemble, swear profusely then touch up.
The best example of this was the 1/24 Preiser firemen, I painted the parts that needed gluing together and the (BBC beep) glue from Preiser didn't stick, heads and and members everywhere.
I now paint, stick and then swear.