W&L Tankers

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I'm not sure that the W&LLR ever had any, but as there seemed to be a gap in my r/stock I thought it might be possible to create some. I like to see loads on my trains so this was part of that.

The basis is of course the Accucraft W&L flat waggon. They have not been modified in any way, not drilled or cut, not even glued to. They can be easily returned to their original state in a matter of minutes, and that was all part of the plan, though some of that wasn't quite so clear at the start.

I looked hard for something that would do as a tank, and the best I came up with was these ball-cock floats, which with the help of the lathe I trimmed and grooved and joined together. Unfortunately the join proved too difficult to hide, so I found a piece of timber and turned them, whereupon getting all four ends, and the lengths the same, was a problem.

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The saddles and end stays were cut from ramin strips, and the uprights were laminated from coffee stirrers and sanded to fit within the brackets on the waggon. (sorry poor pic)

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The filler caps were turned from solid steel bar and rivet and latch detail added, then glued into a drilled recess. The tie-bars are 1/16" welding rods, threaded 10ba.

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They are currently painted white as my intention was, as the W&LLR served a farming community, they ought be milk tankers, but later thinking, after the troubles with the actual tanks, suggests that they should be OIL tankers, from Term & Co, (TERM OIL) so they may get repainted.

Transfers/lettering etc. still to be done, but still awaiting a final decision. I didn't think as NG stock that access ladders would be required and some other detail such as outlet pipes may get added later.

The cost of the project apart from the ball-floats that were discarded, was a massive NOTHING as all the rest of the stuff was 'found around the ground'.
 
Nicely done! I like the idea of using the floats for the domed ends. I'm wanting to make a couple of US style oil tankers. I'm thinking some 3" soil pipe if it is still available (It isn't available here) so it's on list of things to acquire next weekend. What diameter are the floats (I can't remember the OD of the pipe!)?
 
Cheers Mick.

Approximately 3.5". I don't see it as critical, anything close would do. You could cut the very ends off the floats and just use the dia. you need, and insert into tube. I just happened to find a large enough chunk of wood so changed tack.
 
Very well executed 'thinking outside the box' bit if modelling. My only criticism, to my eye, the smooth, rounded tank looks a bit too modern a design for the old wooden decked chassis, but then it's your railway and who knows what tricks the company workshop get up to, to keep the freight moving and the revenue rolling in.

David
 
I do actually agree David, though welding has been around for a very long time it wasn't normally used, in those days, for that. However as I said, they are yet to be properly finished and some detail may well be added in time, a ring of rivets around each end is a possibility. The tanks just lift out, they are only very lightly gripped by the ends.

I have checked them against the loading gauge of the box vans and they are within, but to my eye the tanks are still a bit large. I need to get them outside and run them and see for sure. This I think is the beauty of nil-cost modelling - it doesn't matter if you change your mind.

I think the expression is "under development"!
 
but to my eye the tanks are still a bit large. I need to get them outside and run them and see for sure.
You may well find that the colour deceives the eye, and if they were painted a darker colour they would appear to be less large. I had 3 of the 'Train' oil tankers in red and 1 LGB Shell tanker in yellow. When made up as a train the LGB wagon appeared to be larger but in fact they were all the same size.
 
That is part of my thoughts of getting them outside with a full rake. Also some weathering on the tanks might help, though I never normally weather my stock, wanting to keep them original.

If the Dairy does sell them off to Term & Co. and they are converted to oil, then the livery will surely change.
 
may well be added in time, a ring of rivets around each end

Did you see my Pic of the Day for 22.04.16 in the Coffee lounge and posted in Media. The scratch built steam navvy built by Mike Webster. He used self adhesive bling jewels, available from craft shops, to represent rivet heads. More thinking outside of the box.

David
 
Cheers Mick.

Approximately 3.5". I don't see it as critical, anything close would do. You could cut the very ends off the floats and just use the dia. you need, and insert into tube. I just happened to find a large enough chunk of wood so changed tack.

Thanks for your reply. The 3" pipe will be arount 3.5" OD - all pipes used to be nominal sizes (the OD was constant but the ID was a variable like wall thickness). So if I can get some of those floats (and pipe), I could be happy as a cow in clover - or a pig in .... if I don't!
 
The floats came from B&Q Mick. A coupla quid a go.

Late edit : - Did you think about using a Swift Sixteen tank? 175mm long by 70mm dia.
 
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The floats came from B&Q Mick. A coupla quid a go.

Late edit : - Did you think about using a Swift Sixteen tank? 175mm long by 70mm dia.

That's useful to know the source. The tanks will have to be similar to the Bachmann ones I already have so need to be nearly twice the length and at least 80mm diameter (from memory). But thank you for the suggestion.
 
The height is perhaps a smidgeon to tall, but not excessive.

The 'all welded' tanks would be more acceptable if they had tie-down straps, it would break the plain outline. What to use is now the question. Cutting very thin materials into long narrow strips is a nocturnal lady gee-gee! :(:(

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The height is perhaps a smidgeon to tall, but not excessive.
Having seen the piccie the colour is definitely wrong and a repaint will definitely go a long way to rectifying the size look. Having said that they do look good next to the standard stock.:clap:
 
I think tie-straps and lettering would go a long way to alleviate that, but the Dairy Directors meeting has still to vote on any sale to Term Oil. Plus, and Term Oil have also yet to decide on a livery. You could say it's a bit of a turmoil! :giggle:

W&L lettering on white would need to be black, or a strong red to stand out well.

I've been thinking about outlet pipes and perhaps a length of moulding sprue might suffice.

The tie-straps might be possible out of some plastic binding strap. Somewhere I've got a balsa sheet stripper that could do that.
 
Yeah, a stripper on the line should work wonders ;)

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This is what I want to replicate - a few times - it's even larger than I thought (90 odd mm OD, and 350 long). Alan's link is useful to know if I fail to make the dished ends!

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I didn't weather it!
 
I think I would start by seeking a suitable pipe size and go from there. 90mm is only just over 3 1/2". Yours look more like main-line stuff.
 
Tankers, like other things, don't stand still. I just had a little play and managed a reasonably true cut down a length of plastic binder. I now think that it is a trifle thick, but it gives a good representation of the requirements.

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It also breaks up the outline a bit as expected.

If milk tankers are painted white should the lettering be gold (top)? :giggle::giggle::giggle:
 
If milk tankers are painted white should the lettering be gold (top)? :giggle::giggle::giggle:
When I was a sprog and milk was delivered by a milkman in glass bottles we used to put glasses out with the empties, the milkman then put these on the bottles upside down to prevent the birds pecking through the foil to get at the cream. Not a problem these days as birds aren't allowed in supermarkets :rolleyes:
 
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