Take a Brake.........

Miamigo259

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As mentioned at the end of my previous thread on "Chinese Surgery", my next project is to produce something that resembles an Argentine Brake van, as shown in the photo below.............

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The big problem, of course, is that I have only been to Argentina twice, and this is the only clear shot I have of a brake van. Normal freight trains don't have them nowadays, and to see freights you have to be in the right place at the right time, particularly if you are staying in Buenos Aires.
There is very little published on Argentine railways, either in the UK or elsewhere, which tends to limit your sources of information for modelling purposes somewhat!
Searching the internet comes up with very little......videos on You-Tube being the most useful, which you can at least freeze and print off pictures.
Ferroclub Argentino, the preservation group, do have a useful website, http://www.ferroclub.org.ar/ < Link To www.ferroclub.org.ar , which lists their preserved rolling stock and includes some general arrangement drawings of items, some of which are annotated in Feet and Inches as well as Metric measurements, given the UK ownership of many of the Railway Companies prior to 1948.

They have a 4-wheel brake van (broad gauge) preserved at their Escalada depot, built by the Bristol Wagon Co in 1911, which their website has a drawing for + photos, and a Standard gauge one like the ALL one shown above at their Lynch depot which claims a build date of 1970(!), but no drawings are provided, only a photo. At least the photo of the preserved one on their site shows the other end, with the handbrake wheel, which is useful.

Before I start, I'd better make it clear that I am not a scratchbuilding "expert", but can at least produce things that look like the items they are supposed to represent at the end of the day!

This project is likely to take a while to be completed, but I will post updates as and when I have been able to do some work.

The starting point for this job is one of the NQ bogie open wagons, the chassis of which unscrews from the body by removing four screws. The original intention was to shorten the detatched chassis and fix it under a completely new body, but on studying the photo of the brake van and seeing the frames under the bodywork, I decided to utilise the flatbed wagon body, suitably shortened.





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After studying the flatbed body/chassis, I decided to remove 7 planks worth of it to reduce the length - 3 from one end, 4 from the other, which actually reduces the length by 1 3/4" or so.

The marks for cutting are shown in white paint on the picture below...

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It was then a case of getting the junior hacksaw out to perform the surgery........

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Which then left me with the three sections of chassis that I wanted..........

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To be continued.......................






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I like that! The prototype does look very British to me except for the bogie wheel arrangement seems to me that most British ones have two axle frames like this one I did from a kit. I do admire the freelance builder whenever I try it seems to look nothing like I envisioned!!

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I managed to get the work on the rolling chassis finished yesterday, so the next job is to mock up the bodywork using paper templates so that it looks in proportion.

After much filing and sanding, including the removal of all of the stake pockets, steps etc from the sides of the wagon, the three sections were ready to be fixed together. As the interior of the van is not going to be visible, I decided that a suitable sized piece of hardboard would be best to hold the sections in place, so a section was cut and the three chassis sections were glued to this using Evo-stick.
In addition, some 1/2" deep strips of thin plasticard were then stuck to the sides of the chassis as shown in the photo below.
The chassis is now complete, apart from a coat of paint and re-fixing the centre buffers and some underframe bracing.

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Hopefully I will be able to get the body templates prepared sometime during tomorrow.............
 
A mock-up of the bodywork has now been produced from paper and stuck together to see how it is likely to turn out.

My estimated dimensions appear to work OK, so I just need to stock up on some suitable thickness plasticard now before construction of the bodywork can commence.
Ideally I will source some pre-embossed wooden plank pattern plasticard for the bodywork and some corrugated plasticard for the roof. Will have to see if anything suitable is in stock at the local model shop in the coming week..........

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The more I look at it, the more I am convinced that the roof shape is too "domed", so I may make it a bit less severe on the finalised model.
 
The weather conditions here have enabled some more work to be done on the van yesterday.

I managed to source some Slaters plasticard sheets of 4mm planking earlier in the week which is being used on the bodywork. Ideally, I would have preferred 5mm planking, but 4mm spacing was the largest available. The main body frame is being constructed from 2mm thick plasticard, with the planking sheets fixed to the outside of these.

So far, the two sides have been produced, with the observation duckets being made from 1mm plasticard.

A couple of photos are posted below to show the work so far, the first one having an initial covering of grey undercoat.

Given the quantity of snow outside, rapid progress should be made this weekend!

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The first of the two guards compartment ends is now under construction.

These are being made from a "sandwich" of two 1mm thick pieces of plasticard with some glazing in-between - though the windows will actually have black paint behind them so you can't see the interior (as there isn't going to be one!). The wood planking sheet is then stuck onto this assembly.

The original curvature of the roof on the paper mock-up has been reduced, using a suitable sized saucer as a template (!) so it should improve the final appearance.

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Nodrog1826 said:
It has the look of a SR Queen Mary Brake about it, ok with extended body etc...

I have seen something resembling a SR bogie brake over in Argentina but was unable to get a photograph of it. It had a slightly shorter body with longer platforms carrying what I assume were air tanks for braking. A photo has since appeared on an internet site in the last 6 months of what appeared to be something like it at the rear of a loco hauled rolling stock transfer move, but it didn't show it in sufficient detail to make anything of it.

The only one I was able to photograph is the one I am currently basing my model on!
 
Brilliant work , loads of ideas many thanks for posting looking forward to more updates.
 
Not a lot of chance to do much in the past week, but the picture below shows:-

a) Top left - the first bodyside waiting for the paint to dry before it can be fitted to the chassis.
b) Top right, one of the four step assemblies in course of preparation.
c) Bottom left - start of work on the end verandah assembly.
d) End vestibule of guards compartment. Details such as door handles are still to be added.

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Nice work Steve....
 
Latest update on progress.............

One of the bodysides has now been attached to the chassis as shown in the picture below.

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Meanwhile some of the other parts are being painted. The picture below shows the completed end vestibule of the guards compartment, one of the four access steps, and one of the ends of the van having its warning stripes applied. These stripes are being painted by hand as any other method wouldn't look right with the planking details, even if it is an absolute b***d to paint!!

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Hi,

Nice work, its looking very good, use a coat of red oxide on the ends as an undercoat for the red stripes, red is a very thin colour.

Yours Peter.
 
Both sides are now attached to the chassis and the guards compartment ends are being fixed in place..........

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As it has been 2 weeks since the last posting, just an update on progress (or rather, lack of it...) in that time.

Very little further work has been done in that time due to a lack of spare time, but as it is not raining/snowing etc at the moment, I took a photo of the van outside in the daylight showing how far I have got with it.

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The original footsteps I made for it had to be changed as they were a bit too out of gauge on the line in places. A new set were made and are now fixed to the chassis. A start has also been made on the end verandah assemblies (not shown in the picture).

The end panels with the warning stripes are more of a problem than I anticipated as hand-painting the stripes is very difficult due to the grooves on the planking. Coloured vinyl stripes won't look right, so I am going to investigate suitable coloured transfer strips instead. I think you can get such things for model racing cars etc...
 
The end sections have now been constructed ready for fixing once I have sourced some suitable red stripes - hopefully later this week.
Platform sides and doors are in the course of production/painting, but two have been fixed in place already.

A general shot of the work so far is shown below.

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The end section is shown in its final resting place, though it is not fixed yet and was propped up by a tin of paint for the picture to be taken!
 
Following a visit to a model shop in Bury St Edmunds this morning, I was able to source some material to produce the warning stripes on the ends of the van.
Although I would have preferred decal stripes, a rather useful 2.5m long roll of red vinyl stripes in 8 different band widths was purchased (for £2.99), this being aimed at the r/c model car market. In the end I chose to simplify the stripes, using 7mm wide ones, rather than the 5mm ones which was the original intention. It just means less stripes to stick down!
The vinyl strips are thin enough to blend in with the painted surface, and can be scored to simulate the joins in the planking as well.

One of the finished ends is shown below.

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Miamigo259 said:
Following a visit to a model shop in Bury St Edmunds this morning, I was able to source some material to produce the warning stripes on the ends of the van.
One of the finished ends is shown below.
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Must have just missed you Steve?

I was there myself about 10.30 this morning....
 
Gizzy said:
Miamigo259 said:
Following a visit to a model shop in Bury St Edmunds this morning, I was able to source some material to produce the warning stripes on the ends of the van.
One of the finished ends is shown below.
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Must have just missed you Steve?

I was there myself about 10.30 this morning....

Missed me by about 5 minutes!!
 
One end has now been completed, as shown in the picture below, whilst work continues (waiting for paint to dry...) on the other end.
I have to make a handbrake stanchion and wheel for the other end as well.

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