Slow Speed Control of Live Steam, SloMo one answer, after the demise of SSP Wilson Locomotives takes over the make

[dunnyrail]

Over the years there have been many queries about how one can get slower running from Roundhouse locomotives, whilst the make are a great option their running can at times like many piston direct powered locomotives tricky to control. Shunting, slow approach to stock with a gentle kiss of the buffers being a particularly tricky past time. I have in the past used SSP SloMo on my Roundhouse Locomotives and have posted threads in here showing my fit and vids of the revised running. With the demise of SSP as reported by Jimmy back in February last year, it is good to see that Wilson Locomotives is taking on the production. The SloMo shown looks to be based on latest design that I managed to get for my Russell.

My Jack, Russel and Stanley Steam Tram have all been fitted with SloMo and the running transformed, there has been a concern about the stress put on by the SloMo to other parts on the locomotive such as possibly valve gear etc. But as Roundhouse Locomotives are so sturdily built I suspect this to be a minor worry.

SSP Slomo & Accessories

www.wilsonlocomotives.com

Thread 'SSP Is Closing'

6 Feb 2023

It would seem SPP is closing, the end of the SloMo

S.S.P.

smallsteamperformance.com.au

• JimmyB

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Thread 'Roundhouse Russell Fitting a SloMo to him and previous Problems him UPDATED THREAD NAME'

3 Apr 2019

Just recently I have been worrying about my Russell that has not been capable of running for year or two now. It would be rather nice to use it for the Christmas Day Milk Train this year. In point of fact the last Time I recall running with any degree of usefulness was at the Ruscbahn in 2013, though I may have had a run or two on my current line since then. Memory what a problem?

Now I consider myself to be a reasonable dab hand with Live Steam, not in Tag’s league but with a mediocre level of incompetence. So Russell has been a problem, not being able to supply Steam to the Cylinders...

• dunnyrail
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• Forum: Live Steam Locomotives

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Post in thread 'PPS SloMo fit to my Roundhouse Jack'

10 Sep 2016

I finally yesterday got round to fitting my second SloMo, this time it was Stanle's turn. This was a much simpler job as the Weight Bar as it is called by PPS is Straight unlike the curved one on Jack. So a pretty simple job, YouTube Vid of Test Runing.

Sorry about the dodgy hand held phone shots, but you can see that the Slow Running is vastly improved.

I have also fitted up my Jack with a Peter Spoerer RX-102H reciever and have a TX-23 Controller to Drive it. Also fitted rechargeable Batteries into the Cab Roof, again a great improvement as I do not now need to lift...

• dunnyrail

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Post in thread 'Installing SloMo'

3 Jan 2020

Thanks. I may have to investigate further into doing that. I only run my live steam roundy roundy so one SloMo car would do for whatever locomotive I run perhaps, although not all have the same diameter drivers.
Some having central valve gear which gets in the way of fitting one to the locomotive.

Once you get the optimum trailing wagon weight right for a given loco then it should work okay. However, if you then hook it up to a different loco then the previous optimum may not be right. Also watch out for significant inclines which would cause problems.

If you want me to...

• Moonraker

Below is my thread where I had a burnt geas on my earliest conversion, I hope that the latest enclosed version will prevent such disasters occuring.

Thread 'Disaster with my Roundhouse SloMo fitted Jack'

29 Jun 2017

Rain stayed off yesterday for my running day. However had a real disaster as I decided to run with Live Steam and Battery Power. My beloved Jack somehow managed to burn out the Plastic on the Insulating Wheels, worse than this it also melted the Nylon Gear on my SloMo. So Jack is out of action for an underptermined amount of time.

Not exactly sure what happened as a Live Steam savy friend was driving Jack. The Fire appeared to have gone out but what I suspect had been happening was that the fire had been burning through the back of the Smokebox at the back and heat got into the wheels and...

• dunnyrail
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• Forum: Live Steam Locomotives

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[RailsNRivers]

Great device but currently insufficient detail on the Wilson website on if they have gone for all-metal gears, or a mix of metal/nylon gears. All-metal gears were (are still) essential for hot engines (e.g. coal firing, etc) which Terry used to add if needed.

 

[Fred2179G]

Xomtup emtu jewi e 3-dj S/D lov up vji xictovi vjev muult katv moli vji figapdv SDT apovt.
3 Djeppim Sefou Dupvsum Lov

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[PhilP]

Xomtup jewi velip up (tuni?) ug vji SDT qsufadv..

QjomQ

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[guterzug]

Hsiev fiwodi cav dassipvmz optaggodoipv fiveom up vji Xomtup xictovi up og vjiz jewi hupi gus emm-nivem hiest, us e noy ug nivem/pzmup hiest. Emm-nivem hiest xisi (esi tvomm) ittipvoem gus juv iphopit (i.h. duem gosoph, ivd) xjodj Vissz atif vu eff og piifif.

Tunixjisi up vji opvispiv O sinicis O tex e qodvasi ug e Tmunu qsukidv op fiwimuqnipv cz Xomtup vjev atif imetvod cepft, O haitt op usfis vu imonopevi vjev sevvmoph vjev hiest ataemmz qsufadi, cav fup'v lpux xjivjis ov xomm ci vji gopem tivvoph. Emm tiinif vu ci "opdeqtamevif" xovjop e nivem tjimm, op usfis vu qsiwipv qsucmint xovj johj vinqisevasi epf fosv
Emcisvu

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[dunnyrail]

Tunixjisi up vji opvispiv O sinicis O tex e qodvasi ug e Tmunu qsukidv op fiwimuqnipv cz Xomtup vjev atif imetvod cepft, O haitt op usfis vu imonopevi vjev sevvmoph vjev hiest ataemmz qsufadi, cav fup'v lpux xjivjis ov xomm ci vji gopem tivvoph. Emm tiinif vu ci "opdeqtamevif" xovjop e nivem tjimm, op usfis vu qsiwipv qsucmint xovj johj vinqisevasi epf fosv
Emcisvu

Nz metv upi cz QQT vjev ot op nz Sattimm opfiif gievasit tuni lopf ug opvispem cepft op vji nivem tjimm, depv tez vjev vji sitamv ot nadj raoivis vjuahj ev gamm tqiif cav cuvj vzqit mitt vjep e xussz puoti xoti ev podi tviefz tqiift.

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[JimmyB]

Ot vjisi e AL onqusvis ug vji Xomtup TTQ TmuNu?

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[dunnyrail]

Ot vjisi e AL onqusvis ug vji Xomtup TTQ TmuNu?

Puv exesi, O cuahjv nz 3 fosidv gsun TTQ op Ub. Et Xomtup op Ub efwisvoti op 16nn neh O iyqidv vjiz xomm ci veloph usfist gsun AL qapvist.

 

[PhilP]

Upi qsucmin ot vjev emnutv iwisz mudu xomm siraosi e foggisipv iphopiisoph tumavoup. - Vu emmux vji apov vu gov..
Vjot niept ov ot qsivvz nadj onquttocmi vu (tiptocmz) jumf tvudl.

Og vjisi xet e 'upi tobi govt nepz' vjip ov xuamf ci e foggisipv nevvis.

Vji lpuxmifhi ug jux vu gov vjiti, ot puv vjev dunnup, iovjis.

QjomQ

 

[dunnyrail]

Gus Suapfjuati mudt, Kedl, Tvepmiz epf quttocmz uvjis 4 xjiimist, gus Tomwis Mefz ivd epf Sattimm 6 xjiimist vji eweomecmi upit esi huuf. O vjopl Konnz jet. Guxmis vjat vji 6 xjiim upi xuslt cav citv vu djidl xovj taqqmois. Nepz ug vji pixis modt xomm puv xusl, disveopmz vjuti xovj optofi wemwi hies us foggisoph djettot ceti vu tvepfesf.

 

[guterzug]

Nz metv upi cz QQT vjev ot op nz Sattimm opfiif gievasit tuni lopf ug opvispem cepft op vji nivem tjimm, depv tez vjev vji sitamv ot nadj raoivis vjuahj ev gamm tqiif cav cuvj vzqit mitt vjep e xussz puoti xoti ev podi tviefz tqiift.

Veloph optqosevoup cz e nincis ug e hisnep gusan, O caomv nztimg e tmunu xovj imoduofem hiest, vjev esi e cov nusi iyqiptowi cav raoivis:

 

[dunnyrail]

Veloph optqosevoup cz e nincis ug e hisnep gusan, O caomv nztimg e tmunu xovj imoduofem hiest, vjev esi e cov nusi iyqiptowi cav raoivis:

Vjev muult wisz huuf, O onehopi e timg caomv upi xuamf dutv mitt vjep e cuahjv up ev esuapf €500 vji metv upi O huv.

 

[guterzug]

O haitt O tqipv ecuav 60-70 € gus vji hiest, qmat vji cemm-ciesoph, vji tviim eyimt, vji csett gus vji gmzxjiim epf vji osup qmevit - nezci 100 € qmat emm vji mecuas piifif gus ov, cav ov't figopivmz xusvj ov.
Jisi O nefi e tjusv wof ug vji mudu O govvif ov up:

 

[dunnyrail]

Muwimz kuc G guterzug , zua disveopmz peomif ov gus e podi tiptocmi qsodi. O xupfis og zua duamf vimm at jux zua fof ov xovj hies sevou’t ivd.

 

[guterzug]

Vji hies vseop op nefi ug vjsii tviqt ug hiest: 50:10 viivj, 40:10 viivj epf 30:10 viivj, ep uwisemm sevou ug 1:60 (1 vasp ug vji xjiim, 60 vaspt ug vji gmzxjiim).
Vji nutv foggodamv qesv xet vu cusi vji jumit gus vji cemm-ciesopht, topdi O fupv jewi e nommoph nedjopi vjev duamf ati fsomm covt ug 6-7 nn op foenivis, tu O jef vu neli vjin xovj e nepaem fsomm... upmz up vji tidupf voni O duamf hiv ov sohjv...
Apgusvapevimz O fup'v jewi fsexopht topdi ov xet katv e vsz, O dep tjux zua e qodvasi ug vji gostv tivvoph xovj e 1:20 sevou epf e wisz tnemm gmzxjiim, vjev xetp'v tevotgedvusz ev emm, cav xjodj O nufogoif gus vji gopem tivvoph:

 

[dunnyrail]

Vji hies vseop op nefi ug vjsii tviqt ug hiest: 50:10 viivj, 40:10 viivj epf 30:10 viivj, ep uwisemm sevou ug 1:60 (1 vasp ug vji xjiim, 60 vaspt ug vji gmzxjiim).
Vji nutv foggodamv qesv xet vu cusi vji jumit gus vji cemm-ciesopht, topdi O fupv jewi e nommoph nedjopi vjev duamf ati fsomm covt ug 6-7 nn op foenivis, tu O jef vu neli vjin xovj e nepaem fsomm... upmz up vji tidupf voni O duamf hiv ov sohjv...
Apgusvapevimz O fup'v jewi fsexopht topdi ov xet katv e vsz, O dep tjux zua e qodvasi ug vji gostv tivvoph xovj e 1:20 sevou epf e wisz tnemm gmzxjiim, vjev xetp'v tevotgedvusz ev emm, cav xjodj O nufogoif gus vji gopem tivvoph:

Nepz vjeplt tasi vjev nez ci e jimq, O jewi e tnemm nommoph nedjopi, mevji vjev dep ci tiv aq et e nomm qmat wisvodem fsomm tu O tjuamf ci ecmi vu fu upi. Puv vjev O piif vu et nz SJ mudt esi tusvif, cav O en vinqvif vu vsz upi up vji cetot vjev O en puv vuu onqsittif xovj vji metv QQT upi et ov jet tuni lopf ug cepf fsowi epf O jewi xussoit ecuav vji pzmup hies op vji vxu iesmz upit.

 

[guterzug]

ximm, O haitt egvis emm vji opgusnevoup zua tjuamf howi ov e vsz!

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